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Enterprise Services SimonS6-May-02 2:12 SimonS 6-May-02 2:12  I used COM+/MTS with VB6, but I get the feeling that the COM+ & .NET match is very much a version 1 solution. I've been reading this article and it's done nothing to dispell my fears. I no longer see COM+ as an object broker, and the transaction infrastructure that it gives you comes at the cost of crossing the managed-unmanaged process boundary. Is COM+ going to change drastically when the .NET servers come out? I certainly hope they will, and in VS.NET's favor! Cheers, Simon "Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer's personal itch.", Eric S. Raymond VS .NET problems Nish Nishant4-May-02 16:00 Nish Nishant 4-May-02 16:00  When I run anything in Debug mode, VS .NET just freezes. If I run it non-debug mode, [Ctrl-F5] it works fine. I tried to do a Repair/ReInstall but it freezes while generating the setup script Now I am going to try to UnInstall and ReInstall VS .NET! My bad luck seems to be getting worse and worse each day Nish p.s. Any suggestions are welcome! The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: VS .NET - more problems Nish Nishant4-May-02 16:24 Nish Nishant 4-May-02 16:24  I can't repair it - it freezes during the generate script phase same with uninstall So I took add/remove and removed everything. That's when setup failed and gave this error in the log [05/05/02,07:45:39] setup.exe: [2] ISetupComponent::Pre/Post/Install() failed in ISetupManager::InstallManagerHelper() [05/05/02,07:45:39] setup.exe: [2] Component error string not specified in ISetupManager::AddToActionResultCollection() The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: VS .NET - more problems Nick Parker6-May-02 6:22 Nick Parker 6-May-02 6:22  Nish, sorry for the problems you are seeing, I did a little digging for you and I could only come up with some threads other people had started at some other sites where they got the same exact message in their log file. I have included the links so you can keep track of them if you would like. All in new windows as well. Hope this helps get the Nishman going again with VS.NET Internal Error While Installing Visual Studio .net Newsgroup - VS.NET installation fails toward end Visual Studio.Net setup error On the second link make sure you read Kevin Morrill response, he is from Microsoft, this may help a little in debugging this issue. HTH Nick Parker Re: VS .NET - more problems Nish Nishant6-May-02 15:23 Nish Nishant 6-May-02 15:23  Thanks for the help Nick. I finally discovered that my problem was with Zone Alarm. Actually with the logging service of Zone Alarm., If I disable it, all is well. Thanks a lot again, Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: VS .NET - more problems Ranjan Banerji6-May-02 17:38 Ranjan Banerji 6-May-02 17:38  I had the same problem with zone alarm. And am not sure whether mcAfee caused some grief at one stage too. I realized that the best way to install VS .Net is to shut down absolutely everything including services such as IIS etc. Good luck. I managed a successful install and then a sample build and compile in 4 days. Damn nightmare if you ask me. But now it all works fine. I used Windows 2000 professional. Re: VS .NET - more problems Nish Nishant6-May-02 17:54 Nish Nishant 6-May-02 17:54  Ranjan Banerji wrote: I had the same problem with zone alarm. And am not sure whether mcAfee caused some grief at one stage too. I realized that the best way to install VS .Net is to shut down absolutely everything including services such as IIS etc. Actually my zone alarm problems were not just with the installation. I also had trouble running programs from vs.net in debug mode Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: VS .NET - more problems Ranjan Banerji6-May-02 18:08 Ranjan Banerji 6-May-02 18:08  Nish, I never experienced that. So while disabling the logging for zone alarm works for you , there may be a deeper problem. Not sure if I am helping here or just setting you up for another sleepless night. Lets see though, maybe I do have the same problem just not seeing it. I have built and debugged VC++ Managed C++ web services, and ASP .Net clients. What are you trying to debug? Per your original message it appears that debug fails everywhere. Ranjan VC.NET and VC6 static libs Michael P Butler2-May-02 5:04 Michael P Butler 2-May-02 5:04  I'm thinking about wrapping some of my code in managed C++ but sadly I have a third party static lib to include. Does VC.NET allow the linking of static libraries compiled with VC6? Michael Communication is the first step towards enlightenment. Re: VC.NET and VC6 static libs James T. Johnson5-May-02 23:14 James T. Johnson 5-May-02 23:14  You can always try it to find out I think I heard that VC.NET could use VC6 static libs, but VC6 can't use libs created with VC.NET. That is what is stuck in my head anyway; then again I've had some pretty messed up things stuck in my head James Simplicity Rules! Compile to machine code 2-May-02 4:46 2-May-02 4:46  Hi all, Well this probably has been asked for over a million times, but is it even possible to compile a C# project to machine code? Suppose that for some reason someone else doesn't have the Framework, how do I compile my project so that it'll work on his platform (win32 for instance). Cheers Martijn Re: Compile to machine code Michael P Butler2-May-02 5:05 Michael P Butler 2-May-02 5:05  C# requires the framework to run. The only VS.NET compiler that generates native code is the C++ compiler. Michael Communication is the first step towards enlightenment. Re: Compile to machine code RIPPER_X5-May-02 11:45 RIPPER_X 5-May-02 11:45  Anyway it`s the same old story... you can`t run a Java app without the JVM, you can`t run a VB6 app without the VB runtime, you can`t run a MFC app without the MFC libraries...you can`t run a .NET app without the .NET runtime. Re: Compile to machine code Daniel Turini8-May-02 8:19 Daniel Turini 8-May-02 8:19  Reupelteuf wrote: but is it even possible to compile a C# project to machine code Yes Reupelteuf wrote: Suppose that for some reason someone else doesn't have the Framework, how do I compile my project so that it'll work on his platform (win32 for instance). No way. NGEN.exe can generate native code, but this nativde code calls the framework. Simple as that. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment VB.NET != VB6 SimonS28-Apr-02 9:58 SimonS 28-Apr-02 9:58  I'm trying to get .NET adopted in my company, but the code that is being done is VB6-style VB.NET. Originally, I wanted to get all code done in C# to avoid this problem, but alas... So, non-OO .NET is being churned out and I'm battling to find MS documentation that will help me "win over" all the VB6 ppl. Does anyone else have this issue? Cheers, Simon Re: VB.NET != VB6 Nish Nishant28-Apr-02 14:29 Nish Nishant 28-Apr-02 14:29  I think there are books available for smooth transition from VB 6 to VB .NET. And I am not sure whether pure VB 6 style code would even compile on VB .NET. And remember people don't like to change to something new, something they are not well-versed in, they get scared of change, of being shown out as ignorant. Nish Check out last week's Code Project posting stats presentation from :- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Re: VB.NET != VB6 Daniel Turini8-May-02 8:23 Daniel Turini 8-May-02 8:23  Some years ago I had a similar issue. The only way: start coding small and very useful classes. Some months later, people will start understanding the OO benefits. Some years later, most of them will be happy OO programmers. A couple of them even will use STL and create C++ templates. If you can't wait this time try finding another job. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment Re: VB.NET != VB6 SimonS9-May-02 2:55 SimonS 9-May-02 2:55  You've got a couple of good points here, thanks for the input. Cheers, Simon "Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer's personal itch.", Eric S. Raymond StatusBar iamtgo325-Apr-02 17:57 iamtgo3 25-Apr-02 17:57  I am looking for a good example of a statusbar in VB.NET that does not involve creating from code. I have written one that is built from code but can not understand the new format. to preconfigure at design time. George - www.ipdg3.com IPDG3 Helps Developers and Programmers Find Resources Forums - Contests - Tutorials - Source Code - ORB Its gotta be done James T. Johnson25-Apr-02 13:36 James T. Johnson 25-Apr-02 13:36  Post 500 James Simplicity Rules! Re: Its gotta be done James T. Johnson25-Apr-02 13:37 James T. Johnson 25-Apr-02 13:37  doh, ok this 500 not counting the one deleted post James Simplicity Rules! Re: Its gotta be done Nish Nishant25-Apr-02 15:03 Nish Nishant 25-Apr-02 15:03  James T. Johnson wrote: doh, ok this 500 not counting the one deleted post Congratulations James Nish The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)? Re: Its gotta be done Nish Nishant25-Apr-02 15:02 Nish Nishant 25-Apr-02 15:02  Hmmmm. Even after MPB tipped me off, I miss this one, as I am installing stuff at home. Anyway it's better that you did it, than someone I dont even know. Nish The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)? Re: Its gotta be done James T. Johnson25-Apr-02 15:03 James T. Johnson 25-Apr-02 15:03  I was hoping you would see it that way James Simplicity Rules! Re: Its gotta be done Nish Nishant25-Apr-02 15:05 Nish Nishant 25-Apr-02 15:05  James T. Johnson wrote: I was hoping you would see it that way As if you gave me any other option Nish p.s. Jus let me get you on sonork you young rufiian The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)?

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