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What advantages are there for using the .NET platform and C#? From what I understand it will not write code for Linux or MAC, C# exists only on Win2K,XP platforms, you can't even write for win98 either. C# uses mile long names with system.windows.form.something.add.more.names.please and a bases for creating file data structures in XML instead of binary code? Doesn't anyone beleive in making files compact anymore? I am trying to decide if I want to buy it or not. I have a lot of addins that I use for VC6, and I understand that they are not compatible with .NET are they? VC6 can write code which I can recompile on Linux, or MAC without a problem. Are they reasons that I am not aware of as to why I would want to switch over ot .NET, C#, and C++.NET?
Nothing is impossible, It's merely a question of figuring out HOW?
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Aqiruse wrote:
From what I understand it will not write code for Linux or MAC
MS has provided the specification so that you can write applications for other operating systems. There are currently 3 projects to create a .NET for *nix, GnuNET (or maybe it was .Gnu?), Rotor, and Mono. I haven't heard of such a project for Mac but there will probably be one with in the next year.
Aqiruse wrote:
C# exists only on Win2K,XP platforms, you can't even write for win98 either.
Incorrect, C# is a part of the .NET platform; the .NET platform is available on NT4, Win2K, XP, Win98, Win98SE, and WinME. Win95 users are SOL.
Aqiruse wrote:
C# uses mile long names with system.windows.form.something.add.more.names.please
using System.Windows.Forms;<br />
.....<br />
TextBox b = new TextBox();
The using statement makes it so that you don't have to type the whole thing out. The reason for such long names is to be clear and to package it up nicely. Its no worse than some of the security API names in the Win32 API.
Aqiruse wrote:
bases for creating file data structures in XML instead of binary code
The whole point is to interact with other programs written in different languages running on different platforms on the other side of the world. XML is the means, if you don't like it you can serialize to binary form if you wish but you take yourself out of the XML WebServices market.
Aqiruse wrote:
Doesn't anyone beleive in making files compact anymore?
Its merely a tradeoff. Interact with a J2EE webservice with almost no code or create a wrapper to interact with it by hand so that you achieve the smallest filesize as possible.
Modems do a great job of compressing text (which XML is) so there isn't much of a reason not to use it.
Aqiruse wrote:
I have a lot of addins that I use for VC6, and I understand that they are not compatible with .NET are they?
Nope, I belive the DOM changed for VS.NET; but any macros you have should come over with only a few fixes.
Aqiruse wrote:
VC6 can write code which I can recompile on Linux, or MAC without a problem.
You must be writing console programs then, because VC doesn't create windows code that can be taken to other platforms, or you are using a third-party windowing library which is not that same as "VC6 can write code...".
Aqiruse wrote:
Are they reasons that I am not aware of as to why I would want to switch over ot .NET, C#, and C++.NET?
That depends on what kind of stuff you are writing. Since you are currently writing VC6 applications you should give Visual Studio.NET Pro a try; I believe MS offers a 120 day trial CD which would give you ample time to experiment a bit with C# and .NET. If you don't like it stick to VC6 or move to VC7 (which has better standards compliance).
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me. Some of the things I had heard, were incorrect then. In VC6 you can write multi-platform code for linux and MAC. You can get the MFC commercial libraies for Linux if you want to go the MFC way. Or there are about 15, (some free some not) platform libraries that work on Windows, MAC, and Linux (wxWindows and FLTK being free) enabling you to write code and then just recompile (From within Linux or MAC) for the other OS's. That allows you to code GUI applications from within your favorite OS, and have them run on other systems as well. I will take a look at the Trial then, and exam further if its something I want.
Nothing is impossible, It's merely a question of figuring out HOW?
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Aqiruse wrote:
You can get the MFC commercial libraies for Linux if you want to go the MFC way.
Who makes those? I've seen something endorsed by Microsoft for Unix, but when I first looked at it they didn't support Linux.
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"I left there in the morning
with their God tucked underneath my arm
their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.
So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays."
"Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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A very good article about exactly what .NET is (and isn't) can be found here:
http://arstechnica.com/paedia/n/net/net-1.html
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Hi,
I have a control and I would like to change its default color in the designer. I wrote this :
[
DefaultValue(SystemColors.Window)
]
public override Color BackColor
{
set { base.BackColor = value; }
}
I get a build error because I can only set a constant in the DefaultValueAttribute.
How can I achieve that ?
Thanks
Nicolas
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In c#,if you want to override the property ,you must override the 'get' and 'set' method all.
If you only override the 'get' or the 'set' method ,then you will get the compile errors.
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Visual studio6 had tools that could show windows message for specific window ,I can't remember the name of it now.Does visual sudio.net has the same thing?
Mazy
"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975
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I do beleive the name of the program was Spy++, but I dont know if it comes with VisualStudio.NET. The old version would still work though.
--
David Wengier
TAC ad gone wrong: "Don't fool yourself, you're a bloody idiot."
Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
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It's still there in VS.NET...
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Now that I have VC6 and VC7 installed on the same machine I sometimes want to debug an exception or assert in VC6 instead of VC7.
How can I add VC6 to the Just-In-Time Debugging module?
Todd Smith
CPUA 0x007 ... shaken not stirred
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Hi gurus,
I'm trying to move my code from Visual6 to .Net but I've a problem regarding the use of IXMLHTTPRequest cos' it's not recongnized anymore. Could somebody have an idea about the new specifications?
Parker John,
Student Developer, Paris France
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Has anyone else experienced the problem that whilst using VS.Net the properties page just stops working. It appears on the menu bar but will not slide out so that you can actually use it.
The only way to get it to work again is to shut down VS.Net and restart it.
Has anyone else had this problem ?
Nic
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Nic Oughton wrote:
Has anyone else had this problem ?
Only in VS.NET Beta 2. Are you using the beta? If so, get the release version and that bug disapears.
One semi-solution I found in VS.NET Beta 2 was to simply make sure that the properties tab never auto-hid itself. I either had it closed, or open, never hidden.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge
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I have the release version of VS.NET and have experienced this behavior from time to time (not often though). I close out the solution and then reopen it to fix it .. only fix I've found.
Travis D. Mathison --- Travis D. Mathison --- --- After three two days without programming, life becomes meaningless ...
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I had a worse problem, after downloading from Microsoft site the latest driver for VIDEO Card (MATROX G400 AGP) I could not any more look at the properties page, every time I tried to do so my computer blocked and I could only shut down it (with reset button).
After a lot of working i found 2 solution :
1 - put xp default driver (or at least what xp calls the latest driver installed)
2 - put AGP 2x instead of AGP 4x
Michela
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A post on the lounge reminded me of something I've been meaning to look up for a while: benchmark tests on .NET.
Does anyone know of any benchmarks available, and, would anyone be interested in porting some standard benchmarks to C#, VB.NET and/or Managed C++?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Oh James,One time I dl SP1 and SP2 for office2000 and after that my office didn't work,I hope this will not happend to my .Net too/ 
Mazy
"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975
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Anyone knows anything about the Microsoft HtmlLite control? It ships as HTMLLITE.DLL as part of the setup program of VisualStudio.NET, and exports some interesting functions I'd like to know more about, like:
_CchHtmlBreakLinesA@12
_CchHtmlBreakLinesW@12
_CchHtmlEscapeTextA@16
_CchHtmlEscapeTextW@16
DllMain
_FHtmlReplaceCtl@8
_FRegisterHtmlLiteClass@4
_FUnregisterHtmlLiteClass@4
I found nothing in MSDN online, other than the standard entry in the DLL database, which doesn't tell me anything....
Anyone?
--
Thanks,
Roy
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Hello all. I've got a datagrid control with it's first column set up as a TemplateColumn containing a bound HyperLink Control. How do I get at this control from the CodeBehind Page. Simply using FindControl returns Nothing (or Null, for you C#ers).
Thanks in advance! 
Jamie Nordmeyer
Portland, Oregon, USA
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I just switched over from 6.0 to .NET and now i cannot access a few of my dialogs. These dialogs come up and say 'The ActiveX control "Microsoft FlexGrid Control, version 6.0" could not be instantiated because it requires a design-time license.'.
Does this mean i can't use this control without paying MS more money?!?! and if so where would i go to find out how much a license costs? i just dont get it.. it let me use it in 6.0, how is .NET more functional when it takes away my available controls!?
any insight would be much appreciated!
-dz
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You have that license in VS 6.0 (VB, VC, etc)...
When you distribuit the constrol don't have problem, don't need license for display the control, you only need license for use in design mode..... Is for that if you have the VS, you have the license for use in design-mode...
Best Regards 
Carlos Antollini.
Sonork ID 100.10529 cantollini
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I have both Visual Studio 6.0 and .NET, what do i need to do to let .NET know i have a license? basicly, how do i use the control and get rid of this error?
-dz
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