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Re: What's the difference?

tas28261-Feb-06 6:10

tas2826

1-Feb-06 6:10

It was not clear to me. So, is it better to do it this way?

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
 
B::B() 
 : a(5) 
{ 
}

Or this way?

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
 
B::B() 
{ 
 a = 5; 
}

Which one is "Constructor Syntax"?

Re: What's the difference?

Nish Nishant1-Feb-06 6:13

Nish Nishant

1-Feb-06 6:13

The former is the proper way to do it (that's called a constructor initialization list).

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Nish

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Re: What's the difference?

tas28261-Feb-06 6:18

tas2826

1-Feb-06 6:18

I think I am seeing this now. The one question I have is does the constructor initialization list buy you anything for primitive data types? It seems a waste for that and they would be better to initialize in the body of a constructor or in an initialization member function.

Re: What's the difference?

Nish Nishant1-Feb-06 6:12

Nish Nishant

1-Feb-06 6:12

Only problem is when you have multiple constructors. So if your initialization list is huge, you need to copy/paste that for every constructor overload. In such cases a better solution might be to use an Init function that's called by all these constructors.

Regards,
Nish

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Re: What's the difference?

David Crow1-Feb-06 6:29

David Crow

1-Feb-06 6:29

The former is referred to as an initialization list. One benefit, if you need it, is improved performance. The latter is an assignment, which could cause a temporary object to be created. If the member variables you are initializing are intrinsic types (e.g., int, char), there is no difference in performance.

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Re: What's the difference?

tas28261-Feb-06 6:41

tas2826

1-Feb-06 6:41

Okay, I see now. Thank you Rama, Nishant and David for the help. I found another link with a really good explanation too, if you are interested. From a different forum, sorry if that rulles any feathers.

http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1176852&postcount=6[^]

Thanks again for the help.

Troy

Re: What's the difference?

Ryan Binns1-Feb-06 17:42

Ryan Binns

1-Feb-06 17:42

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There's quite a few members here (including me) who left That Other Place when they sold their soul to the devil... This site was set up initially for that very reason.

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Re: What's the difference?

Eric Jacobsen1-Feb-06 10:49

Eric Jacobsen

1-Feb-06 10:49

Scott Meyers, in "Effective C++" says to "Prefer initialization to assignment in constructors" (Item 12)

"From a purely pragmatic point of view, there are times when the initialization list must be used. In particular, const and reference members may only be initialized, never assigned."

There is also a question of efficiency: "When a member initialization list is used, only a single string member function is called. When assignment inside the constructor is used, two are called. . . Even in the case of the lowly string type, the cost of an unnecessary function call may be significant, and as classes become larger and more complex, so do their constructors, and so does the cost of constructing objects. If you establish the habit of using a member initialization list whenever you can, not only do you satisfy a requirement for const and reference members, you also minimize the chances of initializing data members in an inefficient manner."

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Re: What's the difference?

Owner drawn1-Feb-06 16:59

Owner drawn

1-Feb-06 16:59

It's mainly used for initializing const variables.

This is because what comes on the line with the constructor call gets called first before it enters the constructor body. So if you have any value to initialize (for eg const vars) before any other value is initialized then we do it here.

This is the main purpose...

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Exporting dialog resources

tas28261-Feb-06 5:12

tas2826

1-Feb-06 5:12

Is there a way in MS VC++ 6.0 and/or VS 6.0 to export a dialog (buttons, dropdowns, etc.) and import it into a VB form or vice versa? I am in a position where I have to create some screens in VB that exist in VC++. I would prefer not to have to re-make the screens, i.e. add all the buttons, listboxes, etc again.

Thanks,
Troy

Re: Exporting dialog resources

David Crow1-Feb-06 5:15

David Crow

1-Feb-06 5:15

Something *might* exist but I'm not aware of anything.

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Re: Exporting dialog resources

tas28261-Feb-06 5:41

tas2826

1-Feb-06 5:41

I was thinking something probably does exist, I just don't know about it. If you do find somehting, let me know.

Thanks.

Re: Exporting dialog resources

Maximilien1-Feb-06 5:55

Maximilien

1-Feb-06 5:55

since you have to redo all of the "connections" ( callbacks and all that junk ) in VB, I think that it might be faster to just redo the forms in VB ...

maybe there's an .rc import in VB ?

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Font size: point ang logic

includeh101-Feb-06 4:47

includeh10

1-Feb-06 4:47

followings are copied from VC help (in LOGFONT)

===========================
For the MM_TEXT mapping mode, you can use the following formula to specify a height for a font with a specified point size:

lfHeight = -MulDiv(PointSize, GetDeviceCaps(hDC, LOGPIXELSY), 72);
============================
the value GetDeviceCaps(hDC, LOGPIXELSY) is 600;
so formula above is:

lfHeight=-PointSize*600/72;

if PointSize=90,
lfHeight=-90*600/72=-750.

I think the result is incorrect.

what is problem?

A nice tool for optimizing your Microsoft html-help contents.

Includeh10

Re: Font size: point ang logic

Shog⁹1-Feb-06 15:55

Shog⁹

1-Feb-06 15:55

includeh10 wrote:
I think the result is incorrect.

Looks right to me: 90pt is roughly 1.25", so if an inch is 600px then 750px should give you an inch and a quarter (the correct result). Why would you think this is wrong?

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when to upgrade vc6?

ehh1-Feb-06 4:16

ehh

1-Feb-06 4:16

hello,
i've been using vc6 standard edition for a few years now, developing various c++ and MFC applications; i looked at microsoft's visual studio web site, and was overwhelmed by the choices. is there any downside to staying with good-old 6.0? if so, are there any recommendations regarding express versus standard versus professional versus super-extra-special? all i want to do is c++, and mfc if it'll continue to be supported (i'm having my doubts about that).
thanks,
ed

apologies if this is the wrong discussion board for this question....

Re: when to upgrade vc6?

David Crow1-Feb-06 5:14

David Crow

1-Feb-06 5:14

See here.

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Re: when to upgrade vc6?

Gavin Taylor1-Feb-06 6:10

Gavin Taylor

1-Feb-06 6:10

This questions been asked over and over again, everytime nobody ever seems to get a definative answer as everybody seems to have a different option on it. Smile | :)

The only reason I can see not moving from VC6 would be because of legacy code, over the last few versions Microsoft have made some quite big changes to the compiler for standards compliance, etc while no a huge biggie for small projects I wouldn't want to have to go through that much heartache of if I could help it.

The newer editions of VC include Managed C++ (very cool) so you can switch in and out of .NET whilst still using MFC or Win32 code. MFC has had a bit of a revamp in places and the compiler now supports the x64 architecture. On the downside, the IDE is now way more bloated and VS 2005 is definately slightly slower because of it.

If your doing any MFC development the Express edition isn't going to be for you, it simply isn't included in the package.

Personally, I'm running VS 2005 and theres no way I'm going back to anything less - I like it, ask somebody else and they'll tell you different Smile | :)

Anyways, for a full list of the differences between Visual Studio 2005 editions have a look over on MSDN[^]

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Re: when to upgrade vc6?

David Crow1-Feb-06 6:34

David Crow

1-Feb-06 6:34

Gavin Taylor wrote:
...everytime nobody ever seems to get a definative answer as everybody seems to have a different option on it.

Which makes sense. If a definitive answer was provided, it would no longer be an opinion, but a fact.

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Re: when to upgrade vc6?

Kevin McFarlane1-Feb-06 6:57

Kevin McFarlane

1-Feb-06 6:57

ehh wrote:
all i want to do is c++, and mfc if it'll continue to be supported (i'm having my doubts about that).

Well, it's not going away in the next few years at least...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/whidbey/mfc2005/default.aspx[^]

I expect VS 2005 Standard Edition will be adequate for what you want.

Kevin

Re: when to upgrade vc6?

ehh1-Feb-06 9:49

ehh

1-Feb-06 9:49

thanks for all your suggestions; i'm using only a small part of stl (i should be using more), so that's not a major problem for me. i guess i'll stay with vs6 until i need features that it doesn't have, or until i need to support an OS that it doesn't support.
it also seems from your posts that mfc will be supported going forward, which is a separate issue but still good to know.
thanks for all your help!
ed

Getting Mouse Positions

Allad1-Feb-06 4:15

Allad

1-Feb-06 4:15