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Lint is good but slow Kurt Muellner10-Oct-05 19:53 Kurt Muellner 10-Oct-05 19:53  I have to use Lint but it is a bit slow. We use it for C++, ATL, MFC and QT. Sometimes I learn from Lint to get a better programmer. If I do not understand a message then I look in good C++ book and get an answer for that problem. *** Fast Prototyping *** Re: Lint is good but slow Anna-Jayne Metcalfe12-Oct-05 1:26 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 12-Oct-05 1:26  Yep, that's our experience too. As far as speed goes we analyse our projects in the background while we're working so it's less of an issue. Anna Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. You're slower... Daniel Turini12-Oct-05 12:03 Daniel Turini 12-Oct-05 12:03  How much time would it take for you to spot the same problems? It doesn't matter if it's slow, if a tool took a whole month of processing to pinpoint problems in my code, I'd run it. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now! C++ Tools Ed K10-Oct-05 7:30 Ed K 10-Oct-05 7:30  Are there any free tools out there? ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw. Re: C++ Tools Super Lloyd10-Oct-05 14:40 Super Lloyd 10-Oct-05 14:40  FxCop, for example, is free. it's even integrated into VS.NET 2005 Re: C++ Tools feline_dracoform11-Oct-05 0:47 feline_dracoform 11-Oct-05 0:47  i was under the impression that FxCop was for C# only. certainly i have used it on C#, but i would not expect it to work on run of the mill C++ code. however i would love to be proved wrong on this point zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness Re: C++ Tools Ed K11-Oct-05 7:43 Ed K 11-Oct-05 7:43  C++!! ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw. Re: C++ Tools toxcct11-Oct-05 6:18 toxcct 11-Oct-05 6:18  Eclipse have some good C/C++ tools too !!! TOXCCT >>> GEII power [toxcct][VisualCalc] Re: C++ Tools Anna-Jayne Metcalfe12-Oct-05 1:29 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 12-Oct-05 1:29  I don't know of any free lint tools for C++. There is of course Splint[^], but that's C only. AFAIK PC-Lint (which we use) was developed from the same ancestral code. If you are planning to move to VS2005 there is PREfast[^], of course. Anna Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Code Police! Bob Stanneveld10-Oct-05 3:39 Bob Stanneveld 10-Oct-05 3:39  Hello, I don't use a tool that tells me that my variable names are wrong or something similar. No I review my code (if possible, I let someone else do that). This keeps the mind sharp and lets you think a little bit more before you write some code. In my experiance, when you use such a tool, you try to make the tool happy. This is not always right, especially when you use an uncommon language construct. Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^] Re: Code Police! Super Lloyd10-Oct-05 5:50 Super Lloyd 10-Oct-05 5:50  Hey man, take it easy, there is nothing wrong using a tool to help one's own job Anyway I tryed FxCop once, gives me plenty of stupid error. Never bothered to use it again. Maybe I will give a new go one of these day... Re: Code Police! Daniel Grunwald10-Oct-05 10:05 Daniel Grunwald 10-Oct-05 10:05  Many of the rules in FxCop are silly (naming etc.), but the globalization rules are pretty important. string text = "This is a test."; Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture = new CultureInfo("tr-TR"); // simulate Turkish system Debug.WriteLine(text.ToUpper()); Debug.WriteLine(text.ToUpper(CultureInfo.InvariantCulture)); This does print: THİS İS A TEST. (note the dot above the İ) THIS IS A TEST. If you are using something like 'Path.GetExtension(fileName).ToUpper() == ".GIF"', it won't work on Turkish systems! FxCop really helps to check for cases like this. In the GetExtension example, it would yield two errors: no CultureInfo specified and you can save the string allocation by using .Equals(".GIF", StringComparison.InvariantCultureIgnoreCase). Re: Code Police! Super Lloyd10-Oct-05 14:40 Super Lloyd 10-Oct-05 14:40  interesting insight... I might probably give it a new try.... Re: Code Police! Bob Stanneveld11-Oct-05 1:49 Bob Stanneveld 11-Oct-05 1:49  Super Lloyd wrote: Hey man, take it easy, there is nothing wrong using a tool to help one's own job I agree with that, but I don't wan't to use some tool that obstructs me from doing what I need to do. With some project, we agreed to use a naming convention. When we used together, we got numerous warning messages about the naming conventions. We turned that checking off and eventually we put the entire tool aside and started to review eachothers code. I'll be happy to use a tool which I can modify towards my needs. I also want to automate the reporting process. That would be a great tool for my needs. Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^] Re: Code Police! Daniel Turini12-Oct-05 12:05 Daniel Turini 12-Oct-05 12:05  Bob Stanneveld wrote: I'll be happy to use a tool which I can modify towards my needs. If you're working with .NET, you can use FxCop... I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now! Re: Code Police! Bob Stanneveld13-Oct-05 2:41 Bob Stanneveld 13-Oct-05 2:41  Can you use it for C++ to? I work with both C# and C++. Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^] Pair Programming Marc Clifton10-Oct-05 2:34 Marc Clifton 10-Oct-05 2:34  Of course, the quality of the tool varies considerably. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface Re: Pair Programming Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳10-Oct-05 6:22 Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 10-Oct-05 6:22  After years of programming, I no longer have simple bugs in my code. All I need is someone who can find the serious bugs for me. My articles and software tools Re: Pair Programming Paul Brower10-Oct-05 10:41 Paul Brower 10-Oct-05 10:41  Dude. You are funny Good old-fashiond code review Navin10-Oct-05 2:00 Navin 10-Oct-05 2:00  Hey, that's a code analysis tool, right? The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. PC-Lint 8.00q Anna-Jayne Metcalfe10-Oct-05 0:22 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 10-Oct-05 0:22  Given that we're responsible for LintProject[^] and Visual Lint[^] it shouldn't be a surprise that we use PC-Lint pretty extensively. Although PC-Lint takes a little tuning to get optimum results from it, we've found it to be extremely effective at spotting little "party quirks" in our (and other people's!) code. In some cases we've actually been able to predict the conditions that would cause a significant (and unpleasant) change in behaviour of the target app, merely by looking at the context of a simple Lint message such as a variable scope warning. The testers didn't spot it until we told them how to reproduce it... Highly recommended. As an aside, a little while ago we seriously looked at using CLRxLint as well, but it seems to be a product whose development has stalled. Does anyone here have any experience of it? Anna Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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