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Well, in my experience the Adminstrator account can change permissions even when it itself doesn't have permissions to it. I'm thinking I did this once. Try logging in as the Administrator and changing it.
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That didn't work unfortunatly. Maybe it would have worked when the access wasn't denied to the Administrator.
Now I have to options:
1) Back the entire partition up on an other partition, remove the D: drive and reinstall the entire partition.
2) Same as above, but use some tool to restore the NTFS system instead of backing it up.
Do you know if there is some (free) tool capable of restoring the entire file table of a partition?
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you can connect your hard disk into another computer and access the whole drive content... see then where to remove the rights...
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I don't think that I can change the access rights of one OS using another OS. The drive isn't a network share, and even if I change the rights from the network, or another OS, these changes don't apply to the local system.
I think that my best option is to backup the drive and re-create the entire partition.
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hi bob,
i don't understand the point with the network.
i just suggested you to unplug the hard disk from the PC it is connected, and plug it into another...
you will see that by doing this, NTFS becomes nothing.... 
all the security rules that are seet on a system don't mean anything on an other... try it if you have another computer you can open and plug some material inside...
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So you mean, that if I install the hard drive in another computer (different OS), the security settings are invalidated? Doesn't this mean that if I reinstall the hard drive does the same thing?
My only problem with this is that my OS is on the same drive. The drive has multiple partitions, but physically it is the same drive.
I'll try your suggestion when I have the time for it.
toxcct wrote:
i don't understand the point with the network.
The problem with the network is that you can set local and network permissions. These settings don't affect eachother. So I think that you cannot set local security settings (local user) with a network administrator (remote user). I could be wrong though, since I'm not very into this subject.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. 
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ok for the local/network point ; actually, i wans't talking about that at all.
for your hard disk, yes, plugging it into an other computer - whatever OS, if it does understand NTFS - the rights are not effective for the new hosting system. there, you could remove the restriction you unfortunately set for the administrators, and try back booting on the system.
if it has worked, you won't have to reformat the partition.
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I solved the problem now .
I used the method that required the least interaction from me, which was backing up the files, removing, restoring the partition and last restoring the backup. From me it only took 5 minutes and I accomplished this during dinner.
I'll try your method for experimenting purposes when I have more time on my hands. Thanks for the info!
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Bob,
I think if you removed all permissions from a folder for even adminstrator, Windows would give a warning saying 'No one access'.
Under this circumstance, when you just doubleclick it would say 'Access is denied'. But you can go to Advanced, and try to take the ownership and then the control would be restored to the administrator.
Did this help you?
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Hello,
Just even pointing to the drive made windows screem: "ACCESS DENIED". So even the property pages didn't show up.
I solved the problem by creating a backup administrator that had read access to the entire drive.
Second, I made a windows backup using the backup service.
Third I removed the partition, recreated the partition and restoring the backup. After that, everything worked again.
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Bob Stanneveld wrote: Just even pointing to the drive made windows screem
Not click on the drive. Just right click on it and choose property command and the dialog box appear. Go to the security tab and click on button advance. The new dialog box appear and go to the owner tab and take ownership of the drive. Then you will have full access to that drive.
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Hi
I wanted to know how could I programatically add a path to the system in windows 2000,XP. In earlier DOS and win9x, I could use a PATH command in autoexec.bat file. I'm not sure if it should be the case for the latter windows. I also searched the registry for such entry, but I didn't get anything for that.
Thanks
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Thank you very much!
It was just what I was looking for.
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Can any one solve this?
1.) I need to creat an user which can add workstation to domain but should not belong to local admin.
2.) I need to creat a user account which can only disjoin the workstation from domain but not belong to local admin.
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solution to No 1.
u can create a new group by going to "computer management" and under local users and groups add the users who have those privileges to that group.
next u have to go to local security policies, and look at the user rights assignment, theres a policy that states "add workstations to domain" click on it and add the group to the policy
solution to No 2.
the same process implies here, except i couldnt find a proper policy that states "unjoin/disjoin a workstation from the domain". maybe a pro will be able to help.
are we able to create our own policies, if so, how?
ASGill
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Hi all
I am using VB 6.0 and trying to use SetForeGroundWindow() API in Windows XP . But the API's behavior seems to be different from Non XP OS , because the minimized Application window gets the focus btu waits for a mouse click to come to fore ground . Is there anyway to make the Application window to come to forground straight away ?
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Dharani
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Read the docs on SetForegroundWindow(), they go into great detail about the restrictions on when you can change the foreground window.
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Hi guys,
we have a server here that runs "Windows 2003 server" and our client machines are running "Windows XP Pro".
currently we dont have an SMS system but we do have plans to invest in one.
However for the meantime, we are trying to use logon scripts to deploy patches, updates and also some standardized settings for the client, okay here is the problem, I'm totally new in this field and im not a pro in scripting, prob some basics just to start off, im a look and learn kind off person..so if anyone could like recommend me an online site which could show some examples of scripts and also be able to teach me.
also. this one is a pain, the previous system admin kinda forgot the Symantec Server "options password". Any idea on how i can find out the password using some kind of tool or maybe the registry.
thx in advance
ASG
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ASGill wrote:
I'm totally new in this field and im not a pro in scripting, prob some basics just to start off, im a look and learn kind off person..so if anyone could like recommend me an online site which could show some examples of scripts and also be able to teach me
Try to learn from Microsoft Technet Scripting Website.[^]
ASGill wrote:
we are trying to use logon scripts to deploy patches, updates and also some standardized settings for the client,
As far as I know to be standardize feature for every client in the client/server platform, we used group policies to manage from the server. If you are new to group policies try to read introduction to group policies in windows server 2003[^] or try to check desktop deployment.[^]
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hey Roath!,
great job on the reccomendation, the site serves its purpose.
as for group policies i'll have to look into that, however im afraid it mite not be what i want. the org here implements a set of their own policies, not what is there by default, but maybe, are we able to add our own policies to the list in group policies?
thx in adv.
CODER
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ASGill wrote:
are we able to add our own policies to the list in group policies?
In my opinion, I think we can't add our own policies to windows.
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Not sure on your scripting website but there is an excellent book on WMI publised by Microsoft that talks about various system scripting. As for Symantec, I there there is a password reset tool on the CD. I know I have used one with the Symantec System Console MMC when I forgot a password before. If this is the for the SSC and you can't find it, let me know and I can see if I can locate it.
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I have been observing this syndrome in my system over the past couple of days. Whatever file click on my desktop (typically HTML and other files openable with MSIE) seems to freeze the system for typically periods ranging upto 4 seconds). Nothing other than Ctrl + Alt +Delete and Alt + Tab works.
Also, Start -> Run -> control or Control Panel hangs the system.
Occasionally I also observed MDM.EXE eating up more CPU cycles in TaskManager.
Can you please assist me in narrowing down at what application/dll which is causing the system to crawl and particularly I think IE openable and System files, I apprehend?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Web: http://www.lavanyadeepak.tk/
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