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Your post has all the earmarks of a homework project, or a college project. From the information you included, or more to the point, the lack of it, it would appear that you havne't done any research or design work. Am I right?
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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not really...
ya... we are still in coll pursuing final sem engg..
we ve designed the sytem model and database structue.. but the main prob is that we new to this platform and dont even ve much time left.. so not sure how to start the coding n all
it would be really nice if we get some help here..
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You've asked a VERY large question. There's no way to tell you about ALL of the basics you're going to need just to START coding this thing. The forums are just not the place for it. I suggest picking up a book on VB.NET and giving yourself a crash course. If time is so short that you can't do this, I'm afraid you've screwed yourself...
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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If you're new to it, how come 'time is short' and you need to get ideas on how to impliment this, broadly ? What languages are you familiar with ? What is constraining you to using VB.NET if you don't know it ? If you're familiar with C++, VB contains some very nasty gotchas, and also the syntax is likely to be counter intuitive and hard to read for you.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to wire an MVC framework (which is based on VB.NET Design Patterns book). The Viewer/Controller framework is straightforward, however when I incorporated a Model, this is where I get stuck. My question is how to wire events to the model specifically say a login where username and pwd are evaluated and if true put the userid into session that way it lives throughout the duration of the application cycle. Here is codebase:
Code Behind of the viewer:
'/----------------------------------------------------------------------/
'Standard controller method which the form uses to return and instance
'to the LogincControllerFactory
'/----------------------------------------------------------------------/
Protected Overrides Function getControllerFactory() As ControllerFactory
Return New LoginControllerFactory
End Function
I have a login controller class, here is the codebase:
Imports MVC
Imports GL.GLUserInformation
Public Class LoginController
Inherits Controller
'Created strongly type View/Model/View WithEvents Reference attributes
Protected WithEvents _LoginView As Login
Protected _Login As GLUserInformation 'Incorporate the model here
Protected WithEvents _UName As TextBox
Protected WithEvents _PWD As TextBox
Protected WithEvents _BtnLogin As HtmlInputButton
Protected WithEvents _BtnReg As HtmlInputButton
Protected Overrides Sub setTypedModelReferences()
_Login = CType(_models(0), GLUserInformation)
End Sub
Protected Overrides Sub setTypedViewReference()
_LoginView = CType(_view, Login)
End Sub
Protected Overrides Sub setViewDataBindings()
_UName.DataBind()
_PWD.DataBind()
End Sub
Protected Overrides Sub setViewWithEventsReferences()
With _LoginView
_UName = .txtLogin
_PWD = .txtPassword
_BtnLogin = .Submit1
_BtnReg = .Submit2
End With
End Sub
'View event handling of web controls
Private Sub _BtnLogin_DataBinding(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles _BtnLogin.DataBinding
' Validate the user
Const CorderModelSessionKeyName As String = "login_model"
Dim viewWeb As ViewWeb = CType(_view, ViewWeb)
Dim session As System.Web.SessionState.HttpSessionState = _
viewWeb.Session
' Create an instance of the GlLogin class
Dim userLogin As GLLogin = GLUserInformation.ValidateUser
End Sub
Private Sub _BtnReg_DataBinding(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles _BtnReg.DataBinding
_LoginView.Server.Transfer(Registration.aspxName)
End Sub
End Class
My problem is the _BtnLogin_DataBinding, how do I wrap my model into this controller without breaking the design pattern.
Thanks,
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Your view obviously is where input comes into the system, so your pages all need to have an instance of the model ( I'd say derive all pages from a custom base class, generally sound advice anyhow ), which exposes methods that you can call from the view as needed. In reality, I don't think MVC is a valid model for a web app, unless it's not always going to be a web app. Why ? Because your controller is never going to change, and even if your view has a high likelihood of changing, I think you'd do just as well to just adopt a tiered approach. I've written desktop software using MVC, in particular a video jukebox where the view and the controller could change from one install to another, and generally there'd be multiple controllers. I implimented an Interface for each of the three parts, and my startup code creates the right objects and starts them off, the specific types are transparent as all communication is via the interfaces. It worked really well.
I've also been part of a web project where we used MVC, mostly to turn all postbacks into redirects, so the user could always hit refresh in the browser and never get a broken page. IMO the resultant framework was far too complex to be warranted for the job at hand, and it just made the code too hard for someone to learn, and confusing even for us to work on at times.
Don't impliment a pattern just coz it looked good in the book, make sure it's a good fit to the problem at hand.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Hi Christian,
Thanks for your insight on this. You made me ask more questions about MVC. My web application is in a production environment using a tier based architect, but I'm exploring the possiblities of Design Patterns. I was under the impression that MVC is the way to go for Web apps (see UIPAB framework here in CODEPROJECT). Ultimately my goal is to produce efficient business applications that meet the business processes and rules in a shorter life cycle.
Joe
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Anonymous wrote:
Ultimately my goal is to produce efficient business applications that meet the business processes and rules in a shorter life cycle.
You definately need to go with a tiered approach, no matter what you do. Business rules and UI have no business being in the same area of code. However, it's my opinion that MVC is useful only when the view and/or controller are likely to change. Otherwise, there's no reason for the view and controller to be seperated, given that for most apps, the frameworks we have tie them together ( a form has controls that show info and get events, your web app will have pages that recieve events and decide how to render it ). If you wanted to be picky, you could say your aspx is the view, and the aspx.cs is the controller, but that's just nit picking IMO. Given that your web app will always get input from a browser, and output HTML, what use is it to you to seperate the view from the method of control ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I want to make a connection to a AS400 and display on the debug or even a text box a value. It was no problem with VB6 but for some reason I am struggling and getting mixed up when I use VB.Net. Any help or hints would be useful. Even a demo on how it is done in Access using Northwind database would help.
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What are you connecting to on the AS400? A database or a terminal server (like TELNET)?
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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It is a database. Basically, it is get connected, populate some text fields in Vb and then pass back the values. I am new to VB.Net and keep thinking VB6 but there must be other ways.
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Actually, the database code is going to look about the same. Build a connection object, build a command object, open the connection, execute the command, yada yada yada. You could probably even use the same connection string you used in the VB6 code.
There is no AS400 provider in the .NET FCL, so I'm guessing that you'll probably have to use the OleDb classes as a "generic" object library that connects to the database.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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Hey all,
Is there a way to catch file-system events (like file creation\deletion\etc) from my comupter?
I know the .NET object FileSystemWatcher but it can't help me cause it asks for directory & I want to get the event from any disc on my computer..
It doesn't have to be a .NET object. a way to implement this would be helpfull too..
Thanks.
RoyRose78
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It can be done, but requires writing a seperate .DLL, preferably in C++, to expose an interface for your managed code to use. This .DLL is a file system extension, intercepting all FileI/O calls into NTFS... I don't know of any publicly available code that demonstrates the techniques involved.
Oh! I almost forgot, the techniques involved will also require Admin rights in order to work!
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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Hey Dave,
Thanks for replying.
Do you know any site \ book that I can use to examine this field..
Thanks again.
RoyRose78
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Information is extremely limited because of how specialized the topic is. There just isn't a huge call for it. You can start by Googling for "NTFS File System Extension".
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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I'm going to build the setup project for my app. but I have 3 steps to check for the target machine or server before install the app.
1. check framework in the target machine (if not, install the dotnetfx.exe)
2. check SQL Server, can be in the target machine or server (if not, install the MSDE in the target machine)
3. Ask for the Server name, user id, password, then check the database name XXX if exist? (if no, copy a database to the target sql server, if yes, ask for if want to overwrite)
after these 3 steps are checked, then install my app. How can I do these in vb.net? any idea?
one more thing, when the user input the server name, user id and password, this three value will send to the app. and use them to connect to the server. How can I do that?
Thanks!
Lisa
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Well, this one is easy, you can't create an installer application in VB.NET. If the .NET Framework isn't installed, you're VB.NET installer app won't even run in the first place. You'll have to use a non-managed language to do this, like Visual C++.
There are samples around the 'Net that either demonstrate how to do this or are already written to do this and you just modify it and supply your componets to it. You can find more information in this article[^] by Davide Icardi.
As for your server name, userID and password, you'll have to write a custom action for the .MSI installer (which can be done in VB.NET!) and put up a form asking for these things. Once you have them, you can use the came code you write into your application to check to see if the database exists and the credentials work, then store those values in the place where your application is going to look for them.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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How to write a .MSI installer?
Lisa
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You can start by adding a Setup project to your solution. Just right click your solution name (bold type) in the Solution Explorer and click "Add Project..."
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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hi, Dave,
I have two project in my app now. one is for the database setup, it will be a small setup wizard, after the user setup the database, then I want to pass the three value to the other project. how can I do it?
thanks!
Lisa
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You don't.
Run your application's setup first. It shouldn't need any external information to be provided in order to complete the install. Code your database setup to ask for the parameters, install the database, test those parameters, then just put the parameters where your application will expect them, whereever you chose.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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sorry..Dave,
I still confuse the process...
here is in my solution explorer:
3 projects:
SetupWizard - Window application (for the copying a empty database to the target server and user provides the parameters)
MainProject - Window application (this is the application will run in target machine, and need the parameters for the connection to sql from SetupWizard application)
Setup - Setup Project (install the SetupWizard first, then install the MainProject)
Is my project setup right? I still don't know how to pass the parameters from SetupWizard to MainProject..
Lisa
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You don't pass the parameters between the any of these. The parameters get saved to the location where your MainProject application expects to find them so it knows how to get to the database your SetupWizard project created.
Where does your MainProject expect to find the database parameters it needs to get to and login to the database?
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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Here is all I did for the parameters.
In SetupWizard project, it has a module file called public.vb
<br />
Module _public<br />
Public server, user, password, database As String<br />
<br />
End Module<br />
In my MainProject, it has a module file called PublicModule.vb
<br />
Module PublicModule<br />
Public DataSource As String =database<br />
Public DataServer As String = server<br />
Public UserID As String = user<br />
Public UserPassword As String = password<br />
<br />
Public objConn As OleDbConnection = New _<br />
OleDbConnection("Provider=SQLOLEDB;" & _<br />
"Data Source=" & DataServer & ";Initial Catalog=" & DataSource & ";" & _<br />
"User ID=" & UserID & ";Password=" & password & _<br />
";Auto Translate=True;Persist Security Info=False;" & _<br />
"Workstation ID=" & DataServer & ";Use Encryption for Data=False;")<br />
end module<br />
in the PublicModule, I can't do this
Public DataSource As String =database
Public DataServer As String = server
Public UserID As String = user
Public UserPassword As String = password
it doesn't sign value to it. the name is not declared.
Logically, the way I'm doing should be wrong, it can't just pass the parameters in the publicModule, but I don't know any other ways to do it. do you have any idea for it? I know that would be so easy to you, but I'm very dumb of this, could you please help me out of this. I very appricate of it. Thank you very much.
Lisa
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