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i have heard friends having mcp certificates after working for only a few days. they download some books from the internet, gets quick answers of the questions to be asked. that degrades ms's certificates value, i believe. cisco certificates are seen more valuable here. cıssp even more valuable, although only a few might have heard of it. and there is this brainbench thing which i had heard about at university.
and what is this mvp thing ? most valuable professional ? nothing i believe.
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Well the MCP is after passing only 1 exam. And yes some people cheat and get the questions that some person braindumped after an exam. This of course is in violation of the NDA that was agreed to before taking the exam, but that does not stop some people.
Alot of people had gotten a "paper" MCSE and that certification has lost alot of credentials over the years. That is probably one reason Microsoft keeps putting out new certs and new exams (besides to get more money). cisco certs would be valuable if you had cisco equipment, but a MCSE is valuable if you use Microsoft operating systems. It all depends on where you are working to say if its valuable or not.
MVP is not related to the certification program AFAIK. It is a designation from Microsoft to distinguish individuals that have really supported a particular field, such as C#, .NET, etc. There are some benefits to being a MVP, and a quick search on microsoft.com might show those.
Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD
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Nice Özgürce wrote:
they download some books from the internet, gets quick answers of the questions to be asked.
That is illegal, and such activity should be reported. I have an MCSD and I worked hard to get it. Anyone that posts the answers should be procecuted IMO.
Nice Özgürce wrote:
and what is this mvp thing ? most valuable professional ? nothing i believe.
You can choose to believe what you like. MVPs are people that have shown exceptional knowledge and are willing to share that with the community as a whole. IIRC, MVPs are nominated and you cannot apply to be one.
Do you want to know more?
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What could be the fastest way of getting employed in an IT company in US if I'm coming from country somewhere in Asia? I am already a BS Computer Science Degree holder with an outstanding academic performance (even got an honor during graduation). Right now I am employed in an IT comapny here in Asia but learned that money is fast in US.
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how exactly would that help me?
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I think he is referring to Tolkien's "All that is gold does not glitter..." quote meaning that just because something looks good does not necessarily mean it is good. There are other things to consider besides the face value.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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quette wrote:
...but learned that money is fast in US.
Indeed it is very fast (at leaving your pocket). Sometimes you do not even see it because it is so fast. Taxes alone will chew up nearly 40% of your gross salary. From the remaining 60%, you'll need to pay for things like car and life insurance premiums, mortgage or rent, car payment, school, food, clothes, fuel, utilities, retirement, ad nauseam. It is a very vicious cycle.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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Forget about it. It ain't gonna happen.
Many IT professionals in the US are out of work still. Many more, like me, were out of work for a long time and are now happy to just be employed for substandard wages. In IT no one really cares about your education. Experience is whast counts, and many experienced people are competing for jobs.
No US companies are interested in sponsoring visas for IT professionals. There is a much greater interest in outsourcing IT for cheap to places like Asia.
Plus as has been mentioned, 35-40% taxes right off the top. Minimum rent for a one bedroom flat in metro areas like Atlanta is $1000USD a month. New York, LA, figure $1500-2000 for not much more than an address basically.
The average American carries over $8000 dollars in high interest rate credit card debt. You think people carry $8000 in 15% APR credit card debt because "money is fast"?
Whatever you heard, you heard wrong.
Sorry ...
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rwestgraham wrote:
Plus as has been mentioned, 35-40% taxes right off the top.
Actually, if you exclude sales tax, property tax, etc. the highest income tax bracket is 35% currently. Which means, you'll never pay 40% in income tax.
Also, the IRS allows many deductions that most people never take advantage of. If you're going to pay taxes, it behooves everyone to at least somewhat understand how things work.
Here's a good example. If you recently had to move for a job, the expenses incurred are tax deductible. It's up to you, not the IRS, to figure out what you do for the year. Learn a bit about it and you could save serious money.
As far as finding a job, programmers are a dime a dozen now. Gone are the old days of saying "hey I'm a programmer" and anyone would hire you. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon and this is what we now have.
The most valuable programmers of the future will be the ones that A: know how to program WELL and B: the ones that know an industry very well they can apply their programmer knowledge to. For instance, a programmer that knows how the court system and state laws work will be more valuable than just any old programmer to a law firm that needs software.
The ball has now been thrown back in our court, it's time we run with it or else we will fall out of the game completely.
Jeremy Falcon
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I figured they just bought off the shelf products.
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quette wrote:
that money is fast in US
"The grass is always greener on the other side."
Jeremy Falcon
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IMHO, if you have to move to States simply to earn more money than you are not qualified enough. In the age of Internet, money flows around the world.
Cheers.
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I have 9 months experience in VC++. I'm planning to do MCAD certification. Is this a correct decision? Can someone give me better suggestions? How much of experience do I need for MCSD?
Thanks,
Dipeka
Dipeka.A.J
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Well the exams will be using VB.NET or C# and not C++ at all. So definately be comfortable with the other languages (whichever one you choose). As for the MCSD, there is am exam that alot of people find difficult, 70-300. Alot of people fail this on their first time because they re unprepared for the topic. If you are good at requirements analysis and databases, then this exam might be ok for you. But I think that at only 9 months of experience, that the MCSD is something that you might not want to go for just yet. As MS makes the diiference between the two is that the MCAD is a developer of a project, a MCSD is the software engineer or architect. For MCSD you focus on all phases of a softwares lifecycle where for MCAD you might only focus on development and afterwards and not the analysis and design.
Hope this helps.
Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD
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Steve Maier wrote:
But I think that at only 9 months of experience, that the MCSD is something that you might not want to go for just yet.
Agreed. I had 5+ years of experience with MFC before I took my first MCSD exam. I did well on all questions except the two that were specific to GDI. I think they had something to do with mapping coordinates and drawing shapes, neither of which I had done, nor have I done them today.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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On a side note, going for your MCAD will lead you to the MCSD....the MCSD and MCAD certifications share several exams, 2 of which in the MCAD core requirements are also core requirements for the MCSD.
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I participated in today's chat held by Microsoft Tech Recruiting. Some of the more interesting Q&A i put on my blog: spaces.msn.com/members/pjsson/
According to MS so do they not consider a MCSD being anything of value when they are hiring. What's the purpose of getting one then if not even Microsoft care?
zoeg (Expert):
Q: Does a .Net MCSD get a preference during the resume filtering?
A: It depends on the group really. For the positions that I have recruiter for in the past this hasn't been a requirement and doesn't necessarily make a candidate more attractive per se.
/Patric
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Patric_J wrote:
According to MS so do they not consider a MCSD being anything of value when they are hiring. What's the purpose of getting one then if not even Microsoft care?
It looked to me as if the value of the certification was dependent upon the person doing the hiring and the position being applied for. That may be where the "It depends..." comes from. I personally don't put much stock in a certified person with no experience.
The other comment about the certification not being a requirement in the past made sense as well. That would explain why a candidate would not necessarily be more attractive than others. For example, an MCSD certification probably would not be required for someone going into the QA or Technical Writing department.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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DavidCrow wrote:
It looked to me as if the value of the certification was dependent upon the person doing the hiring and the position being applied for
+1, My place of employment will not hire someone with a cert and a cert alone over someone with no cert and adequate experience.
Nino
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