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when my wife does this I get the angry face. I'm still in the minor leagues compared to her. She still is not allowed to use my grill.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Thank you. Please bake and send some. 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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Would that I had decent baking skills. 
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Translation: American gutters = British eavestroughs (also the more common word in Canada).
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Eavestroughs is a new one on me, but then I've only been living in Britain for 63 years.
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We refer to "the gutters" or "guttering" - usually the channels are semicircular or box section, and in the past they have been made in cast iron and I'm sure I've even seen them made of pressed concrete board! You don't want one of those dislodging.
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I'm almost 2 weeks now returning from a trip to Ireland. (where your team won btw) I spent a few days in Dublin and a few days in Galway. The food was outstanding, the hospitality was great, but the travel to and from was hell. Oh, and the weather...it rained 5 out of 6 days with avg temps in the teens(C) and windy.
I also live in the SE US and just replaced all gutters due to a freak hailstorm back in Jan. that also got my poor truck. New roof (prev. one was < 4 yrs. old), new siding, new window casing covers, new gutters, new screens, and new hardwood flooring for the living room might just outlast me.
When we sold the rental a couple of years ago, I paid for one of those gutter-guard systems for it. Whether or not it was effective, I have no idea but imo, due to the close proximity of 10+ large pines and my experience of living there for 6+ years and cleaning those gutters every few months, it ought to help. I'd like to think it had a positive effect on the sale price but I'm probably kidding myself. Either way, it's not my concern...my concern came the following April when taxes came due on the gain!
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"Hope is contagious"
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My comments on the food...
Great Britain:
Yes, very special, not my cup of tea. Except for breakfast with bacon, ham, sausages and eggs; very tasty (including black pudding)
Ireland: Very tasty vegetable dishes. I remember the best carrot soup I've ever eaten.
USA:
Meat very OK, sea side food also very ok.
Pizza has nothing to do with what deserves the name pizza. This also applies to many other Italian dishes
But all it's really only personal taste 
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My minds in the gutter most the time, that count?
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yes sir, it surely does.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: Do you know why the French still exist? To teach Brits how to cook,
The French. Excellent cooks, terrible teachers.
charlieg wrote: I'm in the SE USA (Atlanta).
Where they eat grits with everything? 
See, we Brits can do it too!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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 actually my good sir, I am a yankee. Born in New York and emigrated to North Carolina. I'm sort of a history buff so all good colonies to a point. I actually prefer hash browns with my eggs.
As I learned later, you would classify me as a Kentucky hillbilly with family most from - gasp - west virgina...
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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The Brits colonized half the planet for spices just so they can not use it.
They eat as if the Germans were still flying overhead.
I recently had a leakage in my living room (right where a flat-roofed annex begins) and the first thing we checked were the gutters.
Turned out the gutters were fine, but the roofing came loose.
Very weird, it had been raining for months (very wet year for us Dutch), but that one day, first of the month actually, it decided enough is enough.
Luckily it stopped raining and a contractor was able to fix it a week later.
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We attempted to improve Europe's cuisine by sending our fast food franchises over there.
You can thank us later.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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American cuisine: over sized, oversugared, and over here.
With apologies to the anonymous WWII pundit who coined the original.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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You forgot to mention the salt!
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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charlieg wrote: In England it rains.
- It looks likr rain sir?
- Yes, and it darned well tastes like it too.
Rain-tasting soup[^]
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But fortunately we are blessed with many US food outlets where we can purchase such culinary masterpieces as fried burgers, deep fried chicken and pizza.
By keeping some of our food fairly bland, your average Brit can still fit through a door without requiring the Fire Brigade to come and rescue them. 
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Well lets deal with the Brits or Europeans and food.
When I lived at the Grand Canyon I was friends with the chef at the El Tovar Hotel.
A Mexican chap who had a passion for cooking exotic food. Had special egg serving for breakfast when I felt like splurging for breakfast at the El Tovar.
Because of our relationship I was invited to the Chen Dinner where he cooked as he belonged to the Chaîne des Rôtisseurs was created under the 1901 French law regarding
Associations with an International Headquarters based in Paris.
You can learn more here
Chaine des Rotisseurs – Food & Wine Gastronomy Society[^]
The menu was printed on a dinner plate and presented as a gift. Still have mine some where. If the Brits have a chapter it would be nice to know. I doubt it.
I live in the White Mountains of Arizona and my home has gutters and I have 20 Ponderous Pine trees on my 3/4 acres of land with 3 apple trees that produce a lot of apples the elk steal the apples along with the deer. I am sure no manner of contraption can evade pine needles from piling up in said gutters. Monsoon Season is from June to late September 2 years ago the rain was so violent and turned to hail it stripped my apple trees of 50% of its leaves. DAM Solution is a leaf blower & step ladder around mid June or the gutters look like Niagara Falls.
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Choroid wrote: some where
somewhere 
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"I live in the White Mountains"
You are blessed and I hate you. Actually I envy you. I spent 3 years in Tucson, and I still miss it. That was back in the early 80s, I'd never go back the now. But high dessert mountains? I'm all in. If I had to retire and go live some place quiet, I'd normally aim for a cabin somewhere in New Mexico, but your area is looking fine.
I'll look up your cooking references. I live in a neighborhood with no HOA. I can do things in my backyard.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Nice to see the evergreen topic of food making the leap from the Facebook playground of the "DMC" to here. Not sure what the problem is with Yorkshire pudding, though. Light, airy, crispy, well risen, they're great.
The usual UK DMC riposte of course is biscuits and gravy; every picture I've seen of biscuits and gravy looks like something I once trod in in the dark when I had a cat 
Anyway, gutters.
We usually have semicircular (sometimes box section) channels collecting to downpipes which discharge into a drain - often a separate storm drain rather than a foul drain these days. In my garden the rain downpipe is teed into a water butt so that rainwater can be collected to water the plants.
There are various methods used to alleviate clogging, the most popular being the "hedgehog" which looks like a very long bottle brush; this fills the channel so that leaves etc run off over it, but water runs through it. Fairly effective, but not perfect. See above re needles.
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My dad called gravy on anything "sh*t on shingles" but he was navy.
Help me - what is DMC?
As for the gutter issue, i would love to see a picture of that hedgehog just out of intense curiosity.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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