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Original Griff wrote: A much better idea would be to make it impossible to use the internet without your real world identity being attached to everything you post
The wet dream of authoritarians worldwide, of which the UK is developing an ample supply.
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When it comes to kids, totally see your point. Not too long ago kids used to outside and make friend with their neighbors. Imagine seeing an entire generation that never learned to do that.
Jeremy Falcon
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Social media outlets would probably love that. What better advertising then being banned, every kid is gonna want it then.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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OriginalGriff wrote: make it impossible to use the internet without your real world identity being attached to everything you post
That's such a slippery slope.
I totally agree it would encourage responsibility. The internet would be a different place altogether. That's the good part.
Now imagine all the psychopaths you might have annoyed getting ahold of your street address. Because you know if the data's there, it's gonna get compromised and it'll all leak out eventually.
Richard Stallman might be paranoid to an extreme, but an internet with complete transparency isn't a place I'd hang out.
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It would also make it harder on dissidents in countries with varying levels of oppressive government.
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Great points man. I'm not sure how to really feel about this, but I do know legislating morality (the intent behind this) always leads to government overreach and problems. For instance, we got stupid laws in some states say crap like you can't sell donkey's on Tuesdays (an example but they got stupid laws like that).
Jeremy Falcon
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OriginalGriff wrote: make it impossible to use the internet without your real world identity being attached
Hindsight is 20/20 vision as they say, but making the internet anonymous was a bad design decision as far as security goes.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Australian children to be banned from farcebook, Ex, InstantGran, and so forth.
IMAO, the minimum age should be set globally and have have at least three digits.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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One digit on each hand should suffice...
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As long as the first one is a leading zero, I'm all for that! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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If one leading zero is good, two would be even better! 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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OriginalGriff wrote: A much better idea would be to make it impossible to use the internet without your real world identity being attached to everything you post: encourage responsibility, rather than malicious stupidity.
Oddly enough, I'm both for this and against this at the same time. I don't like the idea of requiring anything, but it's clear a looooooooooooooot of people act way too foolish behind anonymity online.
I don't believe you can legislate morality though (causes more problems than it solves), but I sure do wish "adults" would grow up already when online. But, we've also have already seen the media use this for evil.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 10-Sep-24 20:17pm.
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OriginalGriff wrote: without your real world identity
The deuce you say.
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Today we can talk to them senses to not to use or use with caution social media. With ban - especially one that cannot be forced - it will be gone. A final win to the filthy side of social media...
"It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox
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If I were the king, I would just ban children. Very few social redeeming values. 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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Too bad you already gave up all of your guns...
that said, pull the router, don't give kids smart phones, parents be responsible, etc. It's not complex, it just requires conviction, courage and the ability to laugh at your kids while they melt down. Vodka helps.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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OriginalGriff wrote: make it impossible to use the internet without your real world identity being attached to everything you post
The sociopaths bullies would not be affected, because they don't bother hiding their identity now. They enjoy the attention they receive from terrorizing those they believe are weak. Instead, those kids who are seeking help anonymously would be forced to reveal their identity in the process.
As one who was frequently bullied and spent a fair amount of my adolescence depressed and suicidal, I find this a concern.
Software Zen: delete this;
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There would be mass confusion.
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Only for the densest people
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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Not sure if this is a joke or not, if it is... forgive me as I didn't get it.
But, if it's not... can we not do better than this? Like what kinda person does nothing but insult, thinking their way is always superior?
Note, I've seen this argument 1,000 times online by those who know nothing of the imperial system or its history. And, I'm not even suggesting it be maintained, but the smugness exuding over a measurement system is insane and clearly over compensating for something.
Edit: And yes, I realize that there's 2.2 pounds per kg, so maybe that's the joke. And maybe it's a touchy subject for me and I'm being whiny. I just don't see anything new here in the past 20 years with most dialog.
Jeremy Falcon
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I'm guessing it's a joke, density = mass / volume, kind of thing. But it is in fact a weighty issue. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yeah, maybe I should've just said it wasn't a funny joke. I'll shut up now.
Mabye 
Jeremy Falcon
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It was a botched joke on density. I debated if explaining it or not, I probably chose the wrong option.
Changing units of measure is tough for anyone. I'm approaching aviation where everything is in knots and miles and feet and holy cow.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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I'm just gonna shut up man. I'm old and grumpy. La la la.
Jeremy Falcon
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