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Rick York10-May-23 13:03
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Davyd McColl11-May-23 5:11
Davyd McColl11-May-23 5:11 
I used to always build, but on my last machine, I decided to go with a good custom builder. I don't know what country you're in, so I'm not sure what would apply to you, but this is the route I'll probably go next time too (I went with, and would use again, WootWare - wootware.co.za)

I won't buy some off-the-shelf junk - companies tend to stuff them with the lowest-spec'd rubbish they can get away with at a price-point, or put totally mediocre hardware in the box and charge $arm + $leg for it (GamersNexus videos cover a lot of these charlatans!).

I'd suggest finding a local company which builds based on "loose" specs and which has a good reputation for service, so if something goes wrong during shipping or something fails in the machine, they will help with RMA'ing things.

For reference, I spec'd the following for my machine:
- latest-gen i9 (11th at the time - 12th came out a month or 2 later... but I couldn't really wait)
- 64Gb RAM
- board supporting the above, with Wifi & Bluetooth support, either on the board or on a daughter board (ended up going that way)
- Liquid cooling
- Minimal lighting (but I ended up with more than I originally anticipated, and I kinda like it)
- Chose a case that I like, looks-wise and rated online as tough and easy to work with (Phanteks Ethoo EVOLV)
- Originally kept my GPU, but then bought a GPU from them - it's a minor installation
- One NVME drive, if the overall cost fell within my budget (which it did)

Whilst they did suggest an AMD machine for a slightly lower cost, they also didn't shove it down my throat, and respected me when I declined (a good friend of mine had been having an uncommon issue with his AMD that I was afraid I'd have, and I didn't feel like enduring the RMA cycle for a minor price difference - about 1.5% on the entire system)

What I got
- 11th gen i9 11900KF (can push the clocks - which I'm not - but no igpu - which I don't need)
- 64Gb 3600mhx ram (2x32)
- Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite
- Fractal design cooler
- The Phanteks case I wanted
- Sabrent rocket nvme (which I wouldn't recommend, tbh - tends to overheat in a pcie-4 slot, though the Windows drivers just slow the drive down when it's heating up, so you won't notice in Windows - just the drive will get slow; but under Linux, the drive goes offline...)
- later, a Gigabyte Aorus 3070

The experience was great - I had the fun of picking out what I wanted, with the safety of not having to double-check that I hadn't picked anything incompatible. I then got a beautiful, powerful machine without the stress of potentially damaging expensive components. I was up and gaming that day, no sweat, no stress. I had an email trail about 10 deep going back and forth, refining the system based on costing and requirements - this is why I say: choose a company with good customer service. I'd emailed another company (evetech) and the guy got back to me, obviously annoyed with my email setting out my requirements, having missed part of what I asked for - and 3 days after I sent the mail. Wootware got back to me within a day with the AMD recommendation, and turned around with a similar Intel quote within a few hours of me pushing for Intel.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing

Which is stupid.

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