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I even didn't tried!  IMHO Xamarin as a 3-rd party company don't reward attention. .NET is a MS platform and THEY are completely responsible for proper UI lib on Linux. But instead of burying clumsy WPF and making usable UI, MS just points finger "hey, see, these guys make something like UI!". WTF?!! Who is responsible for that UI? Nobody. So why we should waste time on "hand made" library w/o any support and quality assurance?
ATM MS has only two robust combinations: Windows+WinForms & Windows+WPF. Last one is slow and clumsy, so only 1.5 combinations.
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I used it at a previous job (~2 years ago now). Got it working fine. Had to get all those dependencies taken care of that you're noticing, but I don't remember it being that painful.
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I got it to work using VS2013. It was painful but worth it.
I have two Corporate Apps running.
Once you figure out the hundreds of little obstacles, you can get to a nice little code->deploy cycle.
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After spending several fruitless hours I gave up and decided the old ways are best.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Use visual studio built in installer.
Tick android development (xamarin)
I have not run into troubles until now.
The thing I hate about Xamarin is, the apk it produces is way too bloated. >_>
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Indeed the easiest is to install Xamaring with Visual Studio, it may just take time to download everything.
I remembered thinking that it wasn't working, but it's just because I didn't have the Android Emulator installed.
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Yes, but process could be better. I ended up with a fresh win 10 install. Then used the Zamyl universal template then I fixed each problem just to run an empty project. Was painful but eventually got through it. Good part of the problem is Different Nugett packages and then updates from his Xammer in. It's worth the effort though once you get a good stable install working in all platforms we care about, you literally have one C-sharp CodeBase. Used stackoverflow a lot. Product has come so far since it's mono days. Except for the installation issues that really is a mature good product
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So yesterday a child was forgotten in a forest by the responsibles for a child camp[^] who organized some activities there. This is now going to be a big bashing about how bad these people were, not even able to count the number of children placed under their responsibility and take care of them, aso...
This is precisely why I hate our society. Everything HAS to be perfect. Even more perfect because children are involved. No error allowed.
So okay, they made a mistake, and a 3-year-old has been left alone for 7 hours. But statistically, in France, millions of children are put under other people's responsibility every day (teachers, sports trainer, child care, etc...), which make billion of billions of opportunities every year to have one left alone or forgotten somewhere. So ONE left alone every other year makes a failure rate of less than 0.0000001 ppm, which is close to nothing.
The child is safe. Move on!
But I know what is going to happen : people getting fired, new laws about children care and rules and procedures, bla bla bla.... This is just plain sick. I hate it before it even started to happen.
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In my day he would have been taken in by a family of wolves, befriended a bear and a panther, escaped a snake, been captured by monkeys and fought a tiger before being lured back to his village by some singing water fetching person.
Times have changed.
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Bare necessities -- ta tam ta tam ta ta ta tam --
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In my time, he and his brother would have been adopted by wolves and founded an empire.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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But you tell that to young folks nowadays, and they don't believe you!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: he would have been taken in by a family of wolves, befriended a bear and a panther, escaped a snake, been captured by monkeys and fought a tiger before being lured back to his village by some singing water fetching person.
Isn't that the story of The Jungle Book? 
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread 
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That is sheer Khan coincidence
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You Euros! Socialists all! 
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Hang on there, I think we always would have come down heavily on any children's organisation that was this irresponsible. OK, I was nearly drowned in an old mine shaft by a benedectine monk as a kid but I wasnt left behind!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: I was nearly drowned in an old mine shaft by a benedectine monk as a kid
There are worse things a catholic clergyman could have done... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Amen.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Er, well, yes, there was one who didnt take us out on irresponsible field trips to old tin mines who was later investigated....
(After my time that was though, when I was there it was the music teacher. Word on the street was you dont want a one on one lesson...)
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Perhaps what he's describing is some sort of euphemism.
Suddenly I'm a little uncomfortable.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: OK, I was nearly drowned in an old mine shaft by a benedectine monk as a kid but I wasnt left behind!
They did not want to leave evidences...
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Rage wrote: a failure rate of less than 0.0000001 ppm, which is close to nothing.
Yeah. Right. Until it's your child who's left behind.
So - Rage wrote: Everything HAS to be perfect. Even more perfect because children are involved. No error allowed.
Perhaps perfection will not be achieved - but giving up and leaving things at mediocrity is a pretty ridiculous approach.
Hey - why debug software? - there will always be mistakes - so just stop making a big deal.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Until it's your child who's left behind
You cannot be objective when you are involved.
W∴ Balboos wrote: leaving things at mediocrity is a pretty ridiculous approach
Mediocrity ? There is a world between leaving out a child every other billion times, and leaving them out every time. In the first case, I would not talk about mediocrity.
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