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Musk is crazy. End of story.
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I wondered why there was a big red sign saying "LEVEL 2" when I reached 1,000,000 rep points!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I think I'm a curly brace short of a function...
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Are You Living in a Simulation?[^]
I posted this in the Lounge in April 2003!
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
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We Are living in computer simulations.
The computer is our brain, and everything we see, hear, feel, etc, is composited there.
Who knows what the world really looks like?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I had a dream once... more of a nightmare, that I was playing quake and I was the character in the game, and someone shot a rocket at me and I realized that it wasn't a dream and a game, but that it was real (in my dream) and caught such a big fright knowing that if the rocket hit me I'm dead that I woke up almost like Leonardo di caprio in the movie inception where I went into a state where a had to spin something as to make sure that I was actually in the real reality and not in inception.
What I learned from that experience is that life is not a game, so don't screw with it.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo
I don´t want to be a computer simulation!!!!!
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Why Not?
What difference does it make?
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Sorry, my low level of English prevents me from maintaining a deep conversation, so I'll be brief:
Surely no difference, a simulation does not know that it is being simulated.
It is, above all, a psychological desire. I want to really exist. I want to have soul. I don't want to be a hologram, or executable code.
My life should make sense, else what I'm doing here?
If I'm not real, I want to kill the matrix architect.
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Strongly recommended:
Realtime Interrupt: James P. Hogan: 9780671578848: Amazon.com: Books[^]
This story is not quite being a computer simulation, but about living in a computer simulation. Or... Is is reality? How would you find out? When you exit the simulation, how do you know that you are back to reality?
I known people who have had sleeping problems after reading this novel. Admittedly, it is somewhat "creepy". But fascinating. Like all James P Hogan novels, it is very well researched, carrying a lot of real expert knowledge, with a logically consistent story. And just slightly across the border to Science Fiction: You are left with a feeling that this could be real reality in just a few years.
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we are a computer simulation != high possibility we are computer simulation
0.000000001 != 0
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Well a program bug would explain the presidential race this year....
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Nah! Not a bug - just a hacker having a laugh!
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Well I guess the joke will be on us...
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ELON MUSK FINDS GOD
One could confer that Elon is saying there is a higher power. Indeed he is saying that GOD exists and is in control of everything!
MichaelJAM
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Once you start learning a little bit about quantum mechanics you can't help but agree.
The fact that the universe doesn't hold the position of every particle in "memory" but a probability simplification... That's exactly what I'd do to save resources if I were to program a universe.
The fact that there is a speed limit (light speed) is so weird that I have to think it's done because otherwise the processing speed required would be infinite.
It makes perfect sense.
Oh! I almost forgot... Did you know that the universe has a "resolution"? Yup. 0,000000000000000000000000000000000001 meters is the smallest possible size for anything
Just a Bean, trying to ket some sleep...
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I know a lot about QM and I don't agree. Without the facts of physical law you mention, the inflationary Big Bang, the coalescence of matter into stars, and the arisal of organisms that can figure these things out would not occur. Therefore, such facts of physical law are logically necessary. This is the weak anthropic principle.
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I don't know a lot about QM, but a quick search for weak anthropic principle tells me that you are using a philosophical definition as counter-argument. I agree with the fact that we evolved to be compatible with the universe that surrounds us. But that doesn't imply that the universe is real. If anything, it says that we are simulations compatibles with the simulation that it is our universe.
My point was that if I were to simulate a universe I would probably take some shortcuts, such as the ones we can see in QM
Just a Bean, trying to ket some sleep...
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I don't know a lot about QM, but a quick search for weak anthropic principle tells me that you are using a philosophical definition as counter-argument.
Um, no, I made the counterargument and then gave the definition of it.
But that doesn't imply that the universe is real.
Logic failure. I didn't say that it implies it ... I gave, as you said, a counterargument to the claim that we must be living in a simulation. An argument that P isn't necessary is not an argument that (not P) is necessary.
If anything, it says that we are simulations compatibles with the simulation that it is our universe.
No, it doesn't say that, which is exactly the point. We might or might not be within a simulation. The claim I am refuting is that, because of certain features of the universe, it must be a simulation. But there's no reason to accept that claim.
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I think Life is a Video Game is probably a pretty good analogy. Which is similar to what Elon is saying.
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We most certainly live in a holographic Universe and we are most certainly AI's in the making. However, that simulation does not run on any computer, it runs inside our very soul which is part of the Creator soul. That is age-old wisdom from the Zohar, 3000 years old. And as it were, the conclusion of quantum mechanics.
Cool to see that Elon is starting to get it
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Yeah, I wrote a model of Physics based on that idea and it found Space curved and pi in no time. SURELY we can characterize Life in such way, but maybe that particular statement.
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To suggest that we must living in a computer simulation is to disregard the extra dimensionality of reality. It means only that our most advanced technologies tend toward the state of our reality. I think it would be more accurate to suggest that the knowable limits of our reality have much in common with computer simulations. A computer? Really? BIGGER! Think outside the hyper-cube
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