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Kschuler wrote: I call it the growler.
Clarkson wouldn't.
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You can borrow this one[^]. My house is about 100m from the far end of it.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Looks like somebody was on their cell phone. 
BTW, I've always heard them called fog lines.
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I've always known it as the "fog line" from 40 years ago when I lived on a mountain. I know from that experience that you actually can't see it when it's foggy, so I can't see the use of it.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Australia: Edge line.
Most of Australia, especially my state, rarely gets fog.
Quote: Edge lines mark the edge of the road. The area to the left of the edge line is called the shoulder of the road and is not an extra lane for vehicles to travel. Cyclists may travel on the road shoulder.
[blah blah blah; motorbikes can use shoulder in specific circumstances, etc, etc]
(p.s. As you may know, we drive on the correct side, which is to say the left.)
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Mark Whybird from Brisbane wrote: Most of Australia, especially my state, rarely gets fog.
You may be right for the lesser populated areas of the continent, but believe me, the SE quarter (which supports the majority of the population, including myself) is definitely subject to fog.
Oh, ABC news published this[^] about a week ago.
btw, you can edit your profile to correct your country of residence.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer.
Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer.
I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions.
But I'll try to keep it short.
I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges.
Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error.
This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.
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Throw it in the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
It sits there in low power standby all the time. I print, it grabs paper and prints, then goes back to low-power standby. No ink to evaporate, no Epson date-chip expiry, no spending half an hour trying to get enough print lines working to get a recognisable image ...
This is my second laser, and I got it second hand, three years old, still on it's original cartridges (which were low) from eBay for £50. It prints double sided at 16 ppm, single sided at 36ppm (Black and white) or colour at 32 ppm and holds over a ream of paper. A set of aftermarket cartridges cost me £40 six months ago and I still haven't even opened them yet ... 
Only drawback is size: it's pretty big compared to an inkjet.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I was going to say much the same. I have a laser that's at least 10 years old, and "just works". I'm sure I've seen LaserJet III printers much older than that, just working, as long as you can get toner. Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted, and didn't annoy the customers.
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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k5054 wrote: Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted,
They certainly did: not long ago I had to part ways with my LaserJet 6MP after almost 30 years of faithful service.
Along the way I started to use Canon MF printers (last one is also colour) and they aren't too bad either. However the previous Canon I had to let go because there were no scanner drivers for anything newer then Windows XP  .
Mircea
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My father had the same problem, that's why I installed the scanner in a VM, the printer did worked in the Win 7
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
The old printer was still working great over the network and I tried to give it for free but everyone who seemed interested was asking if it has Wifi. No one seemed to want a printer with only a LAN interface. In the end I had to dump it at a recycle centre... kids these days! 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
Of course... it is not practical, but my father scans maybe once a year and I configured the output folder of the scanner already as a shared, so no need to copy from A to B.
But yes. I wouldn't do that myself. I do scan almost every important document. Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke:
Employee: Can we destroy these old documents?
Boss: Sure, but first make a copy!
Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
Mircea
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I live in a country where the agencies still use fax. 
Just want to be sure I can make them understand me in case of need.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Have you been talking to my office manager and accountant?
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yep, never understand the point of a wireless printer. You going to carry it around with you? Much simpler to just plug the ethernet cable into the back of your wireless router and have done with it. It's not even like it's battery powered and you could print sitting by the pool (or the recycling bins...)
I have one (wireless) but the first thing I did was plug it in... 
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I'm the guy who will always choose to run a cable over trying to set something up wirelessly, especially if I expect a reliable connection 24/7.
That being said, running a cable to it is not always convenient. I so rarely print (and I already have enough stuff on my desk), I'm okay with actually placing the printer in the next room, even if it means having to get up to power it on when I do need it.
Bonus: One fewer USB cable to the machine on my desk. One fewer power cable going to my UPS.
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A-ha... I do it over ethernet via a spare port on the router, which is not in the office anyway. In fact I could even do it via the mains, as I already send network over the mains to a wifi repeater anyway. Doing it over the network rather than USB means any device in the house can print from anywhere.
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USB or Ethernet - I meant it interchangeably. Wifi can easily reach the printer in the next room; any type of cable - not so much.
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I abandoned scanners as well - my phone has a "document mode" which does a good job of correcting parallax. Wouldn't be suitable for bulk work, but I scan individual documents only these days - like when some strange individual sends me a paper cheque and I have to pay it in ... fortunately, my bank is more up to date than them!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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