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I used it for about 10 minutes and went back to the old version. I didn't like several of the features, including when you change the message sort, with a message selected, it would re-sort and go to the top message. Not very helpful if I sort by sender and was trying to group messages from 'Paul'.
I also don't need/want an email client that attempts to tell me important or unimportant. I can do that in about 3 seconds per email and I know I'm correct in my doing it.
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Gary Wheeler wrote: The actual executable can't be run via a shortcut in the Startup group,
I just had to check this out. I'm not sure why the Startup folder might be handled differently, but I just created a shortcut to the EXE on my Desktop folder, and double-clicking it started the app just fine. If shortcuts located in the Startup folder perform the same action, I would have to assume it would work.
(I have tons of stuff loaded right now and this is not a good time for me to log out/back in just to verify this)...
I found the path to the EXE by right-clicking on olk.exe in Task Manager's Details tab, and selecting Open File Location.
The EXE is in a folder that contains the version number in its path, so I would assume sooner or later the shortcut is gonna get broken, but that's an easy fix.
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dandy72 wrote: I found the path to the EXE by right-clicking on olk.exe in Task Manager
I didn't try that. Open File Location doesn't exist in the Start menu entry for it.
Part of my point here is that Teams has an easy option for having it auto-start. Outlook should have the same thing. Having to find the executable, create a shortcut to that executable, and then have to repair the shortcut after updates is cumbersome and sloppy.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: Open File Location doesn't exist in the Start menu entry for it.
Add the Command Line column in Task Manager's Details tab. It'll be shown there. Bonus: if it was started with command line args, you'll see them there too, which means you can add them also to your shortcut.
Gary Wheeler wrote: Part of my point here is that Teams has an easy option for having it auto-start. Outlook should have the same thing
And for the longest time, people were complaining about the opposite - all apps tried to auto-start, even though you didn't want them to, and the hunt was on to make them stop...
Personally (and ideally), I only reboot my system after Patch Tuesday, so clicking on the taskbar icon once a month to start Outlook is something I'll put up with.
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dandy72 wrote: I only reboot my system after Patch Tuesday
Unfortunately corporate IT reboots our machines at the drop of a hat. Any hat. Hats in Cleveland (we're in Dayton Ohio).
Between that and the fact that I do the installers for our product (which usually requires a reboot), it would be annoying.
Software Zen: delete this;
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there was an old saying, "nobody got fired buying from IBM." Then it got changed to Microsoft.
I do not think it's reasonable to have outlawed napalm, and I believe cluster munitions have their purpose.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I do not think it's reasonable to have outlawed napalm, and I believe cluster munitions have their purpose
I'm still searching for a bicycle-mounted anti-tank weapon. Just the thing for BMW's, Audi's, and red pickup trucks, all nemeses of mine on my commute to work when I ride my bike.
Software Zen: delete this;
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ponder that. legally being allowed to blow off the rear end of a BMW or Audi... as long as you are on a bicycle...
An armed society is a polite society.
Name the book.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: An armed society is a polite society.
Sounds like Robert Heinlein, either from Time Enough For Love (Notebooks of Lazarus Long), or possibly from Number Of The Beast.
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Heinlein for sure... wrong books though... no googling 
The Gunshops of Mars is the reference.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Hmm. It's been years since I did my last complete re-read. With Mars as the clue, it's either Stranger In A Strange Land (Jubal Harshaw has to be the character) or maybe Starship Troopers (Dubois in that case).
Software Zen: delete this;
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you know, I might have to walk back a bit. This might have been a short story in one of the books you've mentioned. It's been a long time...
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I get it. Heinlein is one of those authors I have to ration myself on, especially Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, which is my favorite of his.
One of the fortunate things about late middle age to early senior-hood is that I don't tend to remember as many plot details as I used to. Re-reading is therefore a lot more fun.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Which new outlook? The thick client, or the web based version. I'm not a fan of either, but think the web based one is better for most things. Better still it's the same (mostly) for whatever OS you run.
Honestly though, I miss PC-Pine (now Alpine I think). . . but I'm weird that way.
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The thick client. It really is thick, in the British slang sense of the word.
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Nintendo’s Light Gun - YouTube[^]
"Much becomes obvious in hindsight, ... Yet it is striking how in both physics and mathematics there is a lack of proportion between the effort needed to understand something for the first time and the simplicity and naturalness of the solution once all the required stages have been completed." - Giorgio Parisi, recipient of the 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics"
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Cool little trick.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I've known for a long time that the gun was actually a detector, but I had no idea how it actually worked. So its cool to finally have it explained.
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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Said in Crocodile Dundee voice...
That's not a gun. That's a gun.
Safe for work.
Jeremy Falcon
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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