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Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote: Why will that be? Engineers do, scientists just think!
So thinking is worse than doing. You work in IT - right? By this logic the Telephone sanitation engineers are "better" (to use your phrase - what do you mean by this?) than the philosphers, mathematicians and artists. You work in IT - right?
Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote: And then they come back and say, "Oh wait, what we said then was wrong!
So being able to disprove yourself & having the intellectual rigour to do so is a bad thing?
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Keith Barrow wrote: So thinking is worse than doing
I didn't mean to imply thinking is worse compared to doing. Ofcourse as a software ENGINEER, you think alot and then DO!
Keith Barrow wrote: So being able to disprove yourself & having the intellectual rigour to do so is a bad thing?
No, it's not a bad thing but taken it for granted is bad! If you construct a skyscraper, you better not pray to disprove your calculations but till date I dont even know if sitting upright is the best or sitting with the "executive chair".
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Sheldon Cooper does not exist.
The moron who plays him doesn't know his abstract numbers from his OO.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Ofcourse I know he doesn't exist but what he said do EXIST!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: The moron who plays him doesn't know his abstract numbers from his OO. Jim Parsons has a BA from the University of Houston and an MA from the University of San Diego. After being paid somewhere in the $300,000 per episode range for the last few years, he signed a contract that will pay him $1,000,000 per episode (24 episodes per year) for the next 3 years plus a significant amount from the "backend" of one of the most popular shows on American television.
I'd hardly call him a moron.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I'd hardly call him a moron.
Most of the actors I know tend to be very intelligent actually. Insecure as hell, but also intelligent.
Jeremy Falcon
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Jim Parsons has a BA from the University of Houston In what? All you can get on-line is that he got an undergad.
If it were something that required intelligence and hard work, or even a degree worth having, he'd be proud of it and loudly declare it, and it would be highly touted in the marketing for the show (funny how it's never mentioned, eh? They make a big fuss over Blossom's academics)
Mike Mullikin wrote: an MA from the University of San Diego Sure, in "pretending to be someone you're not".
Learning to BS is shirley a great achievement, reserved for great men (or for pretending to be great men, at least).
Mike Mullikin wrote: he signed a contract OK, so all that proves is that he knows how to write his name.
I'd add "can make demands for other people to figure out how to implement, and sign what his agent tells him to sign" as related achievements.
Idolising actors is idolising vapour.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Damn! You are an arrogant / obnoxious SOB.
If someone whom you've never met doesn't have a university degree in the field that you deem good enough they're automatically branded as a moron? That probably says more about your insecurities that anything else.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Idolising actors is idolising vapour. Who's idolizing an actor? I merely pointed out that he had multiple university degrees and is highly successful financially.
Demonizing people you know nothing about is childish.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Oh, I know plenty about the "creative arts" and the people who populate the field.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: The moron who plays him doesn't know his abstract numbers from his OO.
Actors are usually very intelligent. Not so much about tech details in this instance, but in human nature details. Well enough to portray another person. Not everyone can do it.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Actors are usually very intelligent.
But most shouldn't speak without a script.
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You have no idea just how true that statement is man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Oh, I do. I'm still scarred by some interview I saw of Edward James Almos once. ::shudder::
Same with athletes of course, but that's to be expected.
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Damned straight.
Muppets are best kept in boxes until they're needed.
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Ah. Got it. It didn't register, on the first read.
"Moron" is what we call the "talent" when they're not around; it's just an industry term.
I hear that chefs call waiting staff "the morons", too, since Lenny Henry popularised the term (he's a comedian, not an actor, so he actually has a brain).
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Mark_Wallace wrote: "Moron" is what we call the "talent" when they're not around; it's just an industry term.
Even though I study acting myself, that's funny sh*t. It takes an actor to get an actor, and I know they're pretty messed up.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, you know damned fine that "the talent" will jump at bitching about you behind your back, if they think it will give them even the most ridiculously small advantage or the tiniest bit of cred, so we just use the word we feel is right when we don't have to worry about them having a tizzy and screwing their lines.
That said, there are some bloody nice and smart people in acting, but the culture doesn't make it easy for them to stay that way -- e.g. it's typical for even the nicest of guys to end up believing that everyone in the world is a backstabbing b*st*rd who wants to steal his lines/roles/glory.
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Well, most actors are childish by nature. I was too when I started. You have to learn to grow up so-to-speak. At the non-celebrity stage of the game, most of these actors never grew up. And they're desperate for roles like a crack wh*re, to give them a sense of validation in life. So yeah, I totally get it.
I don't date acting chicks for that very reason. They're shallow and only care about roles, like that makes them important. And to top of it off, most of them don't even have their own personality unless it's a scripted one.
But hey, that's show business. I'm moving to Los Angeles in 6 months in hopes of finding more mature actors to hang around with so I don't go crazy(er).
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: most of them don't even have their own personality unless it's a scripted one. And, pretty often, they can't even deliver that one.
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Btw, what is it you do in the industry?
Jeremy Falcon
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I do the words, Man, and if you don't deliver 'em right, I scream at you.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: and if you don't deliver 'em right, I scream at you.
I know that's in jest, but in all actuality, that's part of the problem with Hollywood. Way too much drama and bickering.
Jeremy Falcon
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engineers, if it wasn't for them the scientists would still be arguing if fire was hot
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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