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Same here - I have had that since the eighties.
Is it legal? Not then.
Is it helpful? No.
Does it catch or deter crime? No, not really. They never found anything they could arrest me for as a result. (Thankfully )
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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It did give me a rest and the other PO's that came to help, just in case and I had a enjoyable talk but ended up losing a gift I had bought for my son and daughter in law.
Yeah I've been hassled a lot because I wear my hair long but even more because of my military experience so I basically don't give a ...
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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How'd you lose the gift?
Police stole it?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: How'd you lose the gift?
It was in the trunk/boot and the only thing I can figure is that when he took stuff out and laid it on the ground he failed to put it back in. It was just a cheap Mexican tile with a number on it that I was going to put on the kids house.
You know what really amused me though he found the pistol I had taken on the trip for protection as I was sleeping in rest stops in the car and I didn't have a permit for it and they had no problem with that. In TX you don't need a permit, but if I would have had a joint in the ashtray they would have carted me off to jail.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Mike Hankey wrote: You know what really amused me though he found the pistol I had taken on the trip for protection as I was sleeping in rest stops in the car and I didn't have a permit for it and they had no problem with that. In TX you don't need a permit, but if I would have had a joint in the ashtray they would have carted me off to jail for a really long time.
FTFY
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
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JimmyRopes wrote: for a really long time.
Don't make much sense does it?
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Mike Hankey wrote: Don't make much sense does it?
No it doesn't.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I'm on-line therefore I am.
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Mike Hankey wrote: In TX you don't need a permit Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people!
That seems off...
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Mike Hankey wrote: I have long hair and the officer assumed I was transporting or using drugs
I think that's a safe assumption.
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Why?
My hair is about 50cm from pony ring to tip, and I haven't used or transported illegal drugs for 15 or more years (I can't remember exactly, but certainly it's long enough that no traces would show up in a hair sample)
And I know people with grade 2 cuts who smoke dope.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Exactly and how many professional do cocaine and/or drink heavily?
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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OriginalGriff wrote: My hair is about 50cm from pony ring to tip, and I haven't used or transported illegal drugs for 15 or more years
You do realise that in the context of this thread, the direct translation would be "I'm a Muslim and I haven't bombed a plane for 15 or more years now"
And BTW the hair thing wasn't a serious comment.
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Bullshit
then I guess you could also safely assume that;
People that shave there heads are neo-nazi
People that home school there children are anti-social
People that have Facebook or Twitter accounts are lonely and psychotic
why stop there lets just put everyone in a category then when something happens we know where to look.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Mike Hankey wrote: People that shave there heads...
People that home school there children...
People that have ...
Oh boy, Grandma Nasty must love you!
It's "their", not "there".
And it's "people who", not "people that".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Mike Hankey wrote: I have long hair There's always a silver lining.
My 25 year old niece complains she keeps getting carded, while her mom reminds her to enjoy the experience 'cos she'll miss it one day!
/ravi
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There's definitely a silver lining and getting more so every year.
I got carded until well into the 40s
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Those long-haired punks ARE a menace to society!
And I've been having it for the past 10 years because dem ladies love bad boys Or at least that's what I keep saying to myself
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
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{
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}
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Mike Hankey wrote: I was recently took a cross country trip and in TX I was pulled over by the police. I was given some lame excuse (probable cause) and the whole car searched because (and this would be the key) I have long hair and the officer assumed I was transporting or using drugs.
What he did was illegal. An officer doesn't have probable cause to search your vehicle unless he sees something first (drugs, not hair). You had every legal right to refuse the search. He probably knew that, and just didn't tell you. If you refuse and he violates your civil rights, every judge on the planet would side with you in court. This is still America, at least for now.
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I knew it was illegal when he did it and when I got home I called my brother whom I had been visiting, who's a lawyer and he confirmed it but I learned a long time ago that if you play the game it's a 30 min. inconvenience instead of what could have become a long drawn out nightmare. I had nothing to hide so I wasn't worried about that, just wanted to get back on the road.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Maybe it would make more sense to profile the community from which the terrorists arise/are bred/spawned.
Now, simply put the onus of prevention upon aforesaid community/nation/etc.
Retaliate so viciously that other such places crap their pants (or whatever they wear) - and it becomes generally decided that allowing murderous slime to breed in your community has consequences. Now, using their no-found freedom of choice, they can choose to clean their own house.
Now, the rest of us can sit back and relax.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Retaliate so viciously that other such places crap their pants (or whatever they wear)
That's worked well historically. Both Israelis and Syrians have peaceful lives filled with flowers and gambolling lambs and flowers in their hair, and they've bombed seven colors (and tortured in the case of Syria) anyone related to those involved.
W∴ Balboos wrote: and it becomes generally decided that allowing murderous slime to breed in your community has consequences
Generally, the community is at much at peril from these people as everyone else, except the murderous slime doesn't have to look to far to find their opponent.
W∴ Balboos wrote: Now, the rest of us can sit back and relax.
Strength lies not in defence but in attack.The art of leadership... consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice.I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Keith Barrow wrote: That's worked well historically. Both Israelis and Syrians have peaceful lives filled with flowers and gambolling lambs and flowers in their hair, and they've bombed seven colors (and tortured in the case of Syria) anyone related to those involved.
The Israelis have not done the aforementioned vicious retaliation: frequently leafleting before one of those seven-color bombings you refer to. They don't execute their prisoners. They don't even rape the local women.
Ethics are a cultural development. The Mideastern cultures are a classic example - an Arab that brings you to his home as a guest is a paragon of hospitality. Yet, the same culture will teach its children the value of strapping on a bomb and killing innocent people in eating in a restaurant because it makes some (imagined) statement.
As for the locals being in danger, themselves: even in the cases where that is true (and it's far from universal), I say let them have one of those popular uprising; throw some stones; burn some tires - hell, send their kind into the HQ with a bomb - but make sure they know it will be a lot worse if they allow their habitation to be used as a base of operations.
At the very least, they could all move elsewhere, making it easier to blow the crap out of martyr the terrorist cell.
It's time their were consequences sever enough to be preemptive.
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I usually get pulled out due to either setting off the metal detector (due to either glasses, watch, belt buckle) or finger prints (if taken, the US are the best at this! (I'm missing a couple due to burns)) I have got use to it now...The strangest thing was being pulled out and glancing at a screen and seeing something I worked on...also a good guide is to NOT say "well **** me it works!" you get all sorts of questions
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I was at a weekend away with some friends once.
There was also a group of people who I did not know, one of who was a very large middle aged man who seemed fairly friendly.
Some weeks later a friend of mine pointed out that the portly gentleman made money by drug running.
He would courier drugs through airports.
He was caught once and after leaving prison turned away from his crime.
There's a reason why profiling doesn't work - the ones who get through don't get picked up by the profiling...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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My answer, scan only the checked luggage and the bags. Stop all the other insanity, and just DEAL with it.
9/11 cannot happen again once they secured the cockpit doors.
Yeah, all kinds of OTHER stuff could happen.
I could name 4 things I could easily take on a plane, that would give my family nightmares at the thought.
(Not mentioning here, well, because I aint stupid enough to give great ideas to idiots too dumb to think of them,
and not smart enough to avoid doing it).
If people don't want to take the risk, they can choose not to fly.
Let the free market handle it. Airlines who do well, will get more passengers.
Airlines dropping out of the sky will have fewer of them.
We should NEVER trade Freedom for Security, or we will have less of both.
Life is risky by definition.
Instead of profiling, I like the idea of Registering Flyers. I used to fly A LOT. I would gladly pay to
go into an Expedited lane, where they know I have been cleared at a much deeper level. In fact, I used some
of the inside tricks to bypass a lot of the security lines (First Class, Business Class) and now JetBlue let
me pay $10 to go express... But that should be available to someone who you are just going to scan quickly,
no taking the shoes off, etc... It will eventually happen.
First time flying? No Family? One Way Ticket? Paid Cash? = Body Cavity Search
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