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Have they quantified all the data?
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Collect stars by helping Santa solve puzzles. It's not like you have any deadlines this time of year, right?
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On one hand, you can accomplish so much with it. On the other, it’s a completely frustrating tool to use––not only is the experience horrible, the worst part is feeling that much more could be accomplished if programming didn’t suck. Discuss
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TL;DR - I could only make it through a little bit before checking out. When he started doing time travel with Babbage I was gone.
Programming doesn't suck - it's a combination of bad tools, bad management, bad requirements, bad documentation, environment, etc. that makes it very hard.
The biggest issue I've experienced in my career is creating an elegant solution that's looking for a problem to solve. A couple of companies I worked for went under because of this.
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
-- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian
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One company I worked for was looking to create new problems to solve. When you are in consulting, the whole idea of elegance is rather repugnant.
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Quote: bad management
Exactly, When non technical people gives you unrealistic project completion time. And to tell you how you'll do it.
Pin heads !
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His credentials (at the end of the article): "John became Ars Technica's science editor in 2007 after spending 15 years doing biology research at places like Berkeley and Cornell."
What experience or background does he have to make any kind of conclusion regarding the programming?
On the other hand the ubiquitous phrase comes to mind "that's why they pay us big bucks"...
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gstolarov wrote: that's why they pay us big bucks
Us who exactly?
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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Gun don't kill people, people kill people...
Programming doesn't suck, programmers suck at programming... (And you get to work with their code)
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Wow, that article is way too long to read at work. I gave up halfway through and at that point had failed to be convinced. Programming doesn't suck. Meetings, documentation and pointless cellphone calls suck.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Can a programming language syntax or keyword be copyrighted? Is there any programming language out there which keyword and syntax is copyrighted?
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IANAL, but this guy[^] is. Of course, different jurisdictions (and judges) may feel differently.
Oh, and I should add that this question[^] is kind of the jist of the Google/Oracle case.
TTFN - Kent
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I'd imagine C is copyright by definition
(Also - minCe[^] is heavily copyrighted)
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:raises finger: Oh. yeah.
Gonna name my next programming language @, then sue everyone!
TTFN - Kent
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OK ... I've read the Google/Oracle case page. But what happened then?
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It's gone back and forth since then[^] - Google won initially, then Oracle on appeal, and it continues to drag on.
I guess this means that the official-official answer to your question is, "maybe".
Keywords I would think couldn't be copyrighted though.
TTFN - Kent
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If I design create a new programming language and develop a compiler for it, then what kind of things I should avoid that would cause legal/illegal trouble? I mean when I will release the language publicly?
I know that this may sound foolishness of myself but I'm so unaware of law things.
If you know any web site that will help me to know more about software copyright, then please let me know the link.
modified 17-Dec-15 14:45pm.
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Ah, in that case, I don't think you have much to worry about. The only times that it has come up (that I know of) are when someone copies another language wholesale and uses it to compete with the owners - think that Google/Oracle debacle, or Sun/Microsoft (which was also Java). Just coming up with a language that uses some of the same keywords and/or syntax never seems to trigger these (see JavaScript, all the JVM languages, way too many Haskell implementations, etc.)
As far as a website, I would have said GrokLaw before it got shut down. I don't know of any good replacement, sorry.
TTFN - Kent
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Mohammad Shuvo wrote: Can a programming language syntax or keyword be copyrighted? Yes; Google's Go[^] is licensed for example. These licenses tend to be open, to promote the spreading of the language. It would be rather unhelpfull if any third party needs written permission before using the language, as it would drastically reduce the amount of public available tutorials and examples.
That goes for complete languages, not individual keywords. Any word that is used in common speech would be hard to claim copyright to. A single word would also not be considered an original idea, invention or 'intellectual' property.
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Assumed it was a question from the Lounge, but this is the News-forum - sorry for that
Mohammad Shuvo wrote: If you know any web site that will help me to know more about software copyright, then please let me know the link. Wikipedia[^], which points to an interesting page[^] you might be interested in.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Not if I ran the zoo. Which I don't.
In my opinion, copyrighting your compiler implementation makes sense, but not the ideas implicit in the language.
Just as Shakepeare could copyright Romeo and Juliet, but not the idea of star-crossed lovers who kill themselves. You can own an expression of an idea, but not the idea itself.
But that's just me. Lawyers, of course, would make little money if they agreed with me.
More to the point, what if you made a language and then someone else simply changed all the keywords -- such as replacing if with wenn , etc. -- and said it's their new language?
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A fold is a higher order function (a function that has one or more function parameters and/or returns a function) that is recursively applied over a data structure. Functional C++. The Apocalypse is Nigh!
I was wrong about C++ becoming Java, it's becoming APL:
return YY< YY<t1, f,="" t2="">, F, R >(lhs, rhs);
EDIT: Just a possible warning, we did get a report that some anti-malware is reporting this site for possible badness. Nothing definite (and Chrome/Defender didn't seem to have a problem with it), but better be safe - avoid C++.
modified 17-Dec-15 12:39pm.
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Quote:
The URL https://ngathanasiou.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/182/ is categorized as Malicious Sources/Malnets.
That might just be work's content blocker over reacting; but that's not one of the normal "we don't think this is something you should be viewing at work" denial messages. At the same time; I don't explicitly know if that's a "we saw malware" alert. I figure better safe than sorry though.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Very odd - and sorry. I'll add a warning to it.
I'm wondering though - are you getting that for all wordpress.com sites, or just his?
TTFN - Kent
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