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OriginalGriff wrote: My personal feeling is that it's not a good idea to have specific forums or tags for it, as it really needs to be considered as a holistic approach rather than piecemeal fragments without any other context which is inevitable for forums and QA. Agree
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It's easy to agree with excuses. You're manifesting ways to excuse yourself from simply exploring ideas. Brainstorming isn't rocket science. What makes it so difficult?
The AI discussion forums contain content that is just as potentially dangerous, if not more so, than what cyber security forums would include. Finding an excuse to give up and walk away is handing victory straight into the hands of script-kiddies, and criminals who benefit by harming others. Is that the kind of world we want to live in? I can't make the choice for any of you. I can't help anyone if they're unwilling to even consider it. If you don't want my help, there's not much I can do.
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I told in my previous message that if the forum is created I will use it and read the content.
Only because I said "agree" to OG it doesn't mean, I am against the creation of the forum.
Steve Raw wrote: Finding an excuse to give up and walk away is handing victory straight into the hands of script-kiddies, and criminals who benefit by harming others. I don't need to find any excuse nor to walk away from anything.
Steve Raw wrote: I can't make the choice for any of you. Of couse not, the decission to create the forum or not is to be taken by CP Staff, I am just a user giving his personal opinion.
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There must be forums out there dedicated to this topic that have succeeded in establishing a high-quality, miscreant-free, and morally sound place to discuss these things. To point out past failures as reasons why it can't be done here is self-defeating. We already have a valuable asset, and that asset is past experience. Looking back to when the forums were implemented will provide us with a clear idea of what doesn't work. It may have failed, but in that failure, there is valuable knowledge. Let's observe how the successful forums operate, and apply the same techniques that they do. It's easy to give up, but in doing so we deny ourselves valuable knowledge. Without a change in our mindset, we'll never succeed. There are solutions, and we're not helpless. envision success, and build a model of that vision. I think that's something we all need to give more thought and less pessimism. Brainstorming and sharing ideas as to how we can make this work is where to start. If nothing comes of it beyond that, it's OK. It's a first step in the right direction.
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Steve Raw's reply to my reply to his post "Hello, everyone" in the Lounge has been mistakenly identified as spam. Could a suitably privileged member allow his reply to be posted?
Thanks,
/ravi
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I don't think it is a bug. He is new so the filters need to know him better, then they will leave him alone
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Even AI needs data to work with, and far more of it to be trained with.
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Yes. I was being facetious. And if we had more AI, the forum would have flagged my post as such.
/ravi
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...because what could possibly go wrong...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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As a follow on to Nelek's post below, QA has its own issues.
The "Improve" link and flags seem to be mis-aligned in QA:
1. In questions it appears as:

2. In answers:

Also note the questions are still being modified by a CP editor. This is somewhat disruptive as it moves QA items to the top of the active queue when there has been no actual activity.
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And the questions list now has extra space between the answer count block and the question details:

Edit: This is in the "fluid" layout; the problem doesn't appear in the "fixed" layout.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
modified 20-Oct-23 6:05am.
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Interesting, but different on my Chrome browser:

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Are you using the fixed layout? I only see the extra space with the fluid layout, but it's in Firefox, Chrome, and Edge.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No, I'm using fluid, and get the same result in Edge. If I switch to fixed then the whole thing shifts right about an inch, but the distance between the numbers and text remains the same (but doesn't happen in Edge). Something very weird going on.
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How wide is your screen (in pixels?).
(I'll get this sorted, but on my screen I can't get that sort of spacing when maximised - and I have a 27")
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Mine is a laptop 1920 x 1080, scaled to 125%, as recommended. But the issue appears to have been fixed now. 
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Not fixed here:

The document width is reported as 1850px.
My monitors are 3840×2160, scaled at 175%.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I don't see the issue. 34'' Monitor in 3440x1440 resolution (recommended) and with CP zoomed to 130%

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You're using the "fixed" layout. Try with the "fluid" layout.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I think I will remain by fixed
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I didn't say it was fixed, I said I will remain with "fixed" as layout
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The thought just occured to me that the popular cultural meme attached to becoming a new pet owner was "And don't forget to spay and neuter your cat or dog" and I'm now thinking that this might even be applied to rabbits as well.
As for snails and garden slugs I'd be surprised if any veterinarian would find this type of patient a candidate for such an operation. Short story: I once had a sick mouse that was snorting and couging and sneezing and I wanted to see his rough nose cleared up so I put him in a little cage and walked down the street to the vet and to my surprise, a little to my horror, although the vet said there was nothing she could do for him after disappearing behind her examining bay door and then reappearing several minutes later. I dejectedly said thanks and exited the office but on my way back home I noticed the little guy has a drop of blood on his abdomen. Examining him more closely when I got back to the apartment it was clear to me that the vet had given him a shot. Probably an antibiotic. He lived, his cold cleared up, and that was that.
She didn't want to charge me for the shot?
The only explanation that I could come up with.
(As an aside to this story there's a subtext that really needs to be included: When I walked into the vets office with the cage in hand, the mouse clearly visible through the bars of it, there was nobody in the waiting room but as soon as the door closed behind me, someone else came in, a gruff-looking grey-haired lady with a dog on a leash. And as I turned to go up to the receptionist's counter I must have exposed the cage in my hand to her so that she could clearly see what was in it (and why I was there perhaps). The look she shot me was so far out of bounds ... if daggers is an appropriate word to describe the whole package; a big lung full of air and raised chin with full glare headlights-on-high ... some people!)
As for me and my confusion, sorry. I only wanted to post a differential view of what a webbrowser window can look like when tuned into CP ... where many times now some Gaucho refers to this red text or that yellow sign post, which to me is always irrelevant .
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I don't know what you are smoking... but I want a bit
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