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Chris Losinger wrote:
i'll waive the usual $0.001 per-use payment.
But what about my fee for inspiration?
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003
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But that won't stop me from rating a post and then replying.
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln
The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous
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Rohit Sinha wrote:
But that won't stop me from rating a post and then replying.
a little flag that says "Rohit already rated this" could...
-c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Chris Losinger wrote:
a little flag that says "Rohit already rated this" could
OK, but then I can always create another login just to rate messages and use my regular one to post.
People will abuse the system if there is one to abuse. They will find a way. All you can do is to try to limit that abuse by how much people can abuse it, and how many people can abuse it (not everyone will think of or care enough to create another login, for example).
But the more restrictions you put, the more you limit people's freedom, the less interested they get in the thing. And the more freedom you give people, the more they will abuse it. We have lost it both ways. Why not let them do what they want at least? Who cares what the rating is for a particular post? I don't, for one. I had opposed the rating system from the very first day that it was proposed/implemented, though I didn't know it would be abused like this.
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln
The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous
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Rohit Sinha wrote:
OK, but then I can always create another login just to rate messages and use my regular one to post.
or, you could hack into CP servers and change all the ratings right in the DB!
seriously, of course they could do this . but is it worth it for them?
Rohit Sinha wrote:
Who cares what the rating is for a particular post?
based on the fact that people use the ratings system, i will assume that many people care what the rating is.
-c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Chris Losinger wrote:
based on the fact that people use the ratings system, i will assume that many people care what the rating is.
Yes, and that is why people will also create multiple accounts to rate posts. Right now they don't bother because they can vote with the same account that they use. Imagine what it would be like if only a percentage of the regular posters started doing it.
What I meant when I said who cares is that people still read the posts which interest them, despite the ratings/colour.
I can see why you are so disturbed at the abuse of the system by some people. But don't forget that most people don't vote at all, and only some people think that the merit of a post should be judged by its rating. I always have admired you for your honest, intelligent and well informed opinions (because I seem to agree with most of them  ) and always read your posts with interest. I'm sure there are many more like me. Don't take it too seriously, IMO.
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln
The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous
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Rohit Sinha wrote:
Yes, and that is why people will also create multiple accounts to rate posts. Right now they don't bother because they can vote with the same account that they use. Imagine what it would be like if only a percentage of the regular posters started doing it.
i don't think the problem would be as bad as you suspect. i've been reading SlashDot and Plastic (which have much more sophisticated ratings systems than CP) for years, and i've never seen or heard of people going through the trouble. sure, a person could do it. but, I think that anyone who would go through the trouble, would be someone who would probably mark him/herself as an a**hole in different ways. in other words - that kind of person would probably be on everyone's bad side already.
-c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Code Project is great! I would like to create an internal "CodeProject" on our intranet. Any suggestions on how to do this?
Thanks,
Phil
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three easy steps...
1. Create your basic page layouts.
2. Write lots of cool scripts to make the site work.
3. get people to upload articles.
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Sonork | 100.21142 | TheEclypse
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You know, thats soooo helpful, I can see him having it up and running tomorrow! 
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003
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well that is more or less what i would do.
1. design the layout of my pages...style sheets etc.
2. plan the feature that i want in the website, and do the include code for that.
3. incorporate the code into the other pages.
4. somehow get articles on there.
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If these are serious replies, then I am confused ... I realize that I need to do the layout, style sheets, feature planning, authoring articles, etc.
My basic question is: What software is used underneath CodeProject? Is it commercially available so that I can use its capabilities for me to use in building something similar to CodeProject on our intranet?
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i know it sounds a bit sarcastic, but thats the process i would go through 
i dunno what software was used...but im sure any app capable of writing text files can be used.
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If you'd like to see how it's done, check the articles section here[^], and download the source for the forums. This should give you a valuable learning tool for developing your own internal site.
It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003
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Traitor! 
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LOL!!!
It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003
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My selected "Newsletter Topics" are: Site News, MFC/C++ articles, C# articles, and New articles.
Unfortunately (in my opinion), I still get ASP.NET articles. I suspect that's because there are "New" articles in the ASP.NET topic.
Perhaps I'm just confused, but how does the New articles topic interact with the other topics? If I select New articles does that mean all new articles? If so, what does unchecking ASP.NET do? I don't want all new articles--just the ones in the topics I'm interested in.
I don't know if anyone else would like it to work this way, but maybe New, Unedited, Edited, Updated, and Moved should be secondary filters applied to the main topics of C++, C#, and ASP.NET?
I'd also like to filter on the sub-topics, like Database, Mobile & Embedded, and others, but maybe that's too much for CodeProject to deal with?
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Would it be possible to have some way of knowing just how much workload is there for the editors, so that when articles are in the "Unedited" section, there is some kind of idea how long it might be before they are moved to the permanent section.
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Yes they are, but at some point any of the CP editors can review the article, make formatting adjustments etc, and they then get moved into the edited section.
This normally only happens to the good articles, although they the editors do seem to pick and choose.
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
WHats brown and sticky?
A stick or some smelly stuff!
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As a former editor, I can answer this query. There is no queue or any sort of ordering for the unedited articles. An editor just picks an article, reviews and edits where necessary, then (using some forms) moves the article to its final destination in one of the edited sections. An article that's got bad grammar and formatting will likely stay unedited for a while; while an article that's perfectly typed, uses the correct CP styles and so on, is cake to review and will probably get moved the next time the section editor takes time to edit.
--Mike--
The Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens.
-- Strong Bad
1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click!
My really out-of-date homepage
Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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I discovered this occasionally trying to download file on new computer.
This doesn't prevent "abusing the limited resources", as claimed on the download screen, because anyone can register as a member. This looks annoying to a new user (I used CodeProject number of years before registering and I think this is the best solution). And this adds a lot of non-active user accounts to the CodeProject.
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The policy is in place to prevent spiders from getting all the ZIP files. This is bad because someone can then get access to the files without generating ad impressions on CP pages. It's not meant to keep real people from getting the files. (And as you've noted, it's not... the membership has skyrocketed since the policy was started, but that's ok.)
--Mike--
The Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens.
-- Strong Bad
1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click!
My really out-of-date homepage
Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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Hey Chris,
According to the demographics, http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/demographics.asp[^], there's 3800 of us in the UK is that enough for you to see if you can get us Brits a MSDN universal subscription discount from good ole' MS? It's really rather expensive over here - Universal is over £2000, or over $3000 
Cheers,
Barry
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