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Thanks.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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When you leave a comment in the popup when voting on an article it appears in the messages at the bottom.
However, when you do the same thing with a Tip/Trick, it appears as a comment.
I think the Tip/Trick should behave the same as the Articles and appear as messages, otherwise if the author/message author end up in a debate, the comment section will look awful.
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The comment section is awful anyway. The new reply to comment is useful, but makes the comments rather cluttered and hard to read. The separate scrolling inside the comment div (as pointed out by another member previously) doesn't help either.
Having said that, I can't come up with a better design, so I suppose we should keep things in the messages as you say (mainly if the discussion is lengthy)
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Indivara wrote: The comment section is awful anyway
Be specific, please.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I apologize, that was harsher than necessary. Just a bit hard to use.
* scrolling within comments' div
* no HTML (needed for links mainly)
* cluttered threads
* reply link hard to click when intoxicated
* no notifications for parallel replies
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Don't apologise.
- Scrolling should be gone.
- We did this to avoid making comments messy. I can add it back.
- Extra spacing? Clearer delimiters?
- Call this the safety catch
- Not sure what you mean.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: - Scrolling should be gone.
Thanks! 
Chris Maunder wrote: - We did this to avoid making comments messy. I can add it back.
Only if there are more requests, I can live without it. Decoration & smileys are not necessary, just bold, italic, hyperlink.
Chris Maunder wrote: - Extra spacing? Clearer delimiters?
No, this is impossible to fix, it would mean removing the reply to comment, making it flat (the last one is mainly for this)
Chris Maunder wrote: - Not sure what you mean.
Say A asks a question, B comments to A's question and C comments to A's question later on, then B should get a notification of C's comment. I suppose that would be too much of a strain on the servers, when there are lots of comments on the same level?
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First I'd like to thank Chris for finally fixing the pin bug[^] from 18 months ago. However while the fix does remove the major UI glitch it still has a bit of unexpected behavior. Hopefully this can be fixed in a more reasonable amount of time.
0 Pin a message
1 Select a second message
2 Unpin the first message
Problem This action closes both the first (good) and second (bad) message.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Dan Neely wrote: Hopefully this can be fixed in a more reasonable amount of time.
I'm sure he'll get right on that. 
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When I recently looked at this article, I immediately started thinking of books I would like to add. I'm not sure if this is covered by the umbrella concept of "groups", but it seems like there are some articles that would naturally lend themselves to being wikis, or at least to being updated by members of some "group" (maybe group members are approved by the author?).
Like I said, I'm not sure if this or something similar is already implemented, but I think it could be useful.
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If a group posts an article then anyone in the group with the status "author" or above can update articles owned by the group.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This post here[^] in GIT provides the link for downloading MP3 songs.
I think it violates copyright materials.
Anyone with higher power, care to take care or modify the post.
I am being ridiculed for suggesting that it would advoate piracy.
Please clarify.
Edit: OP has removed it.So no issues.
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
modified on Monday, January 24, 2011 5:24 AM
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In the past I (and others) have suggested an option that members can select in their settings: Send me an email when any of my bookmarked articles gets updated.
Another possibility is: Send me an email when an article I have voted on gets updated.
This second option will be valuable when you vote on an article that has some bugs or other problems; when it's updated with corrections, you would like to be able to give it a higher vote.
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Interesting. I'll add that to the notes on that item.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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In my reputation history, I see 4 of these in a row:
23 Jan 2011 3:29 AM Post a General Forum Message (undo) Debator Forum Message -1
23 Jan 2011 3:29 AM Post a General Forum Message (undo) Debator Forum Message -1
23 Jan 2011 3:29 AM Post a General Forum Message (undo) Debator Forum Message -1
23 Jan 2011 3:29 AM Post a General Forum Message (undo) Debator Forum Message -1
I don't remember deleting any of my messages. And I'm pretty sure I was asleep by 1AM (these actions were at 3:29AM).
EDIT: Resolved. See here.
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I had 1 of those a while back and I couldn't figure out what it was for.
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Perhaps you guys are so devoted to the site, that you "sleep-post".
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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In the case of mine, it happened while I was in the middle of a meeting so that's entirely possible.
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I've just worked it out.
I just approved a Tip/Trick and got an 'undo -1' rep update because I had a message on it.
As all messages get removed when an item gets approved, you lose the point you gained for that message.
This doesn't seem right to me. I realize that sometimes threads on articles etc. can be about other things but mostly they are about helping the author, so maybe they should be transferred over to organizer or something, rather than being lost. Or maybe messages on unpublished items should be credited to organizer, or editor from the get go and not removed on approval.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
modified on Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:23 PM
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We wipe votes and messages posted on pending articles in order to give newly posted articles a fresh start.
If a member posts a message then deletes it we remove the points, and if we ever need to do a reputation recalc then when we add points for posted messages we don't count deleted messages. This also counts for when a message you post gets voted off the island. It just disappears.
However, if a message is removed as part of the article approval process then it, unfortunately, falls into the same bucket. I guess what we could do is mark the message as "suspended" (meaning it won't appear) and then in rep recalcs add points for suspended message - though this seems like it's bending logic a little.
Votes are another issue: we remove votes on pending articles for the same reason but don't have the concept of a suspended vote. It's there or it's not. Hence, having a "it was there but it's no longer visible" status would require some major reworking.
I'm trying to find a good balance in these things but these odd cases brought about by odd requirements can add serious complexity. I personally don't care if I lose a few points here or there because as an above-gold level member I already have a ton and I'm not approving or commenting articles for points (since I get most of my points from articles and answers) - I'm doing it to help others.
I know this isn't exactly motivating to others, though so I'll keep thinking.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: We wipe votes and messages posted on pending articles in order to give newly posted articles a fresh start.
I understand and agree with that. It is the only fair way to do it.
Chris Maunder wrote: If a member posts a message then deletes it we remove the points, and if we ever need to do a reputation recalc then when we add points for posted messages we don't count deleted messages. This also counts for when a message you post gets voted off the island. It just disappears.
Both of those situations are appropriate.
Chris Maunder wrote: Votes are another issue: we remove votes on pending articles for the same reason but don't have the concept of a suspended vote. It's there or it's not. Hence, having a "it was there but it's no longer visible" status would require some major reworking.
Until you implement the 'approval requiring more than one confirmation' scheme that you were talking about a few days ago, it seems to me that having voting on unapproved articles is pointless (no pun intended  ). Even when/if that comes into being, unless it is going to be points based, that would still apply. Therefore, unless it would involve a lot of work, remove the voting from unapproved articles.
Chris Maunder wrote: I personally don't care if I lose a few points here or there because as an above-gold level member I already have a ton and I'm not approving or commenting articles for points
The same applies to me but if points are awarded it just seems unfair to remove them when the item has not disappeared as in the other cases you mention. It is still there, just in a different place. It's a little analogous to someone posting a VB question in the C# forum. If the thread gets moved, do those who have contributed lose points?
Because of this sense of unfairness I almost think that points should not be awarded for anything on unapproved items. As you rightly say, though, that isn't very motivational.
Good luck with your cogitations.
I'm glad it's you and not me.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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I've held off disabling voting for pending articles because I founds it useful for the editors to be guided by what the members think about articles when it comes time to deciding whether to fix or remove permanently.
The comments, however, are often more than adequate so maybe it's time.
That does solve half the issue neatly.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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