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They are one and the same, some days.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Yesterday I published an article and this morning I discovered I lost lots of reputation points for downvotes.
The article is about an application that runs a model for the spread of covid19.
I Developed the application during the first lockdown. I spent more than 3 months, coding for not less than 10 hours a day.
Receiving a downvote is always frustrating
Receiving a downvote after such an effort without any explanation is mortifying simply because I can do nothing to correct the article
It is too rude and I believe CodeProject shouldn't allow this to happen!
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1x 1-vote
1x 2-Vote
Don't you think that you are overreacting a bit?
I personally think you could explain some more, show a bit of the code, etc. And the end looks like you were not finished when you hit publish... Last sentence is: "One last thought" (without even a point).
So I can imagine that someone gave you the downvote legitimatelly. But yeah, it would be nice to have a reason for the downvote, I agree with you.
An advice from long time member... don't take it too personal.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Hi Nelek
Maybe I'm overreacting, but be in my shoes, plese.
I spent three months developing that application. Not the downvote is hurting me. Is the lack of any reason. How can I correct properly the article without any clue on what is wrong!
Anyway Thanks for your kindly reply
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I agree that downvoting without comment is rude. Apparently the site used to insist on a comment when downvoting, but how is that going to be policed? To satisfy the requirement, a comment can just say "Sucks!", which is still useless. So the requirement was dropped.
If your article gets a reasonable number of upvotes, the system will automatically purge outlier downvotes. This has happened with a couple of my articles that occasionally trigger people.
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Hi Greg
I think downvoting is an issue that must be fixed. I agree with you that is not easy but I believe the quality of this service will be affected.
For example: talking of my experience: years ago I published an article on a controversial matter (the use of 'goto') I got so many downvotes that I was forced to delete the article.
(maybe the article was not perfect, but what I observed was a kind of religious war against the article and that shouldn't happen!)
anyway...
Thanks for your kindly reply.
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Member 270861 wrote: I think downvoting is an issue that must be fixed.
Any reasonable suggestions as to how?
As Greg said, we've previously tried requiring a comment for every down-vote. That resulted in useless comments like "Reason for my vote of 1: asdfasdf".
It also resulted in users who posted genuine constructive criticism being targeted by thin-skinned authors who took the comments as a personal attack. Which then meant most people didn't bother down-voting anything, so authors with lots of friends could get their bad articles bumped up to the top of the list.
Article Voting: The dangers of all-good news [^]
There are features in place to try to filter out random down-votes. And anyone found to be abusing the system risks losing their account. But getting a couple of down-votes on your article doesn't come under either of those categories.
As with any system, there is no-doubt room for improvement. But it's much easier to complain and insist that it needs to be "fixed" than it is to come up with any sensible way of improving it. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Hi Omer.
First of all, let me say I am pleasantly surprised that this is not an empty chat. It is clear that people 'who can' are listening trying to solve this issue.
You ask for a suggestion, and I had an idea, but after a quick reading of the linked article, I realized that it was nothing new! The only consideration I can do is: if you tried everything and despite that, the solution doesn't come, one possible option is a new start, with different preconditions.
I mean
Maybe the idea of 'voting' is not good as it seems. Try another way to reference good articles («the ability to sort the wheat from the chaff.»)
or
Split a vote into more components: presentation; difficulty; clarity and so on.
or
Maybe some idea behind the vote is wrong. For example,
- why we do believe anyone can give a vote?
- Should be the visibility of an article related to a vote?
Hoping it helps
Regards
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This is the internet where everyone has access. So, along with many professional programmers, we get the usual slew of pond life whose only goal in life is to annoy others. And since downvotes do not do you any physical or financial harm, just ignore them; we all get them from time to time.
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Hi Richard
I agree: there are 'sad people living sad life' and it is true that «downvotes do not do you any physical or financial harm».
But sorry, please, let me disagree with you because we live also a virtual existence and a downvote harms my avatar.
Again, sorry it is not against you, it's just a thought.
Regards
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Member 270861 wrote: a downvote harms my avatar.
No, believe me, it does not do you any harm at all. If your article is worth reading, then people who are interested in the subject will read it and maybe leave upvotes and positive comments. The rest you should just ignore.
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I'll try
Have a good day
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Most of us have been in your shoes, and we have sympathy. We've all worked on projects that have taken months or even years, and then we offer them, humbly, and learn.
My advice:
- Be patient. Votes will even out.
- Take a good hard look at any comments on your article. Are you missing something? Is it awesome code let down by mistakes in how it's explained, or missing explanations? Small changes can make a big impact.
- Don't give up. We all learned how to code by putting ourselves out there and getting others to critique our work and make us better.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Hi Chris
Normally I try to publish projects that are at my best. In this case, the project is too big for a single person then it's not complete and downvote is something like to shot at the red cross. That makes me much more susceptible.
I am working to make the article better, but is a very hard task!
Anyway
I wish to thanks all of you for supporting me so kindly
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You've probably already thought about this, but what if there wouldn't be downvotes? Just neutral/upvote and ability to comment?
For voting there would be 0, +1, and +2 (current 3, 4, and 5). This would allow upvoting and voting towards neutral. If an article/post/answer is considered as bad (current 1 and 2), then the only option is to comment.
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I sympathize with your sense of "injustice," and, fwiw, I make it a practice to leave comments/suggestions rather than "blind down-vote."
Unfortunately, requiring signed down-voting sometimes leads to revenge down-voting, and distracting disputes.
if an article is such a disaster that I think it should not have been posted in its current state, I report it.
But, compared to StackOverflow's ruthless content policing, I'd say CP is a "happy valley" where lions don't eat the lambs
The cruel facts of life include the possibility that you may have done your best, and it will be ignored, or, misunderstood.
Hopefully, you have a sense of satisfaction that persists !
cheers, Bill
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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Hi Bill
I feel the empathy in your words, and... thanks
(I already had a bad experience with StackOverflow. I wrote an article about the side effects of "asyn-await". It was censured, don't know why. The same article on CodeProject is doing well. It's a mystery.)
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Member 270861 wrote: I wrote an article about the side effects of "async-await". It was censured, don't know why.
Probably because StackOverflow doesn't have a section for publishing articles; it's entirely about questions and answers.
The closest you'd get to an article on SO is posting a detailed answer to someone else's question. But it would have to be relevant to the question that was asked.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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It was posted as a question
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But was it framed as a question?
Just as in our quick answers[^] section, if you post a question which is actually meant to be an article, it will be closed as "not a question". The difference is that on CodeProject, hopefully someone will post a comment first advising you to post it as an article. On SO, there is no option to post an article, so the question will just be closed.
Similarly, if you frame it as a question and then quickly post your own solution, it would likely be reported for "rep point hunting".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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This question How do I get original record and duplicate of same record to show up from a query
Is showing twice on the question list when Load More is pressed. Both are pointing to the exact same question.
What I see in the list is
0 How do I display dynamic data in custom Google map?
1 Change datagridview coolumn as combobox
1 How to create customized alert, confirm and prompt function in ASP.NET C#
2 How do I get original record and duplicate of same record to show up...
0 How to tar all files in a MAC trash bin (if at all possible)
2 How do I get original record and duplicate of same record to show up...
2 Error with the term else
1 Clarification concerning how a reference type value is stored in the heap?
1 How to write a binary search tree to a text file
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This can happen when our two Follow Servers get slightly out of sync. This shouldn't happen, but occasional network or database errors can cause this to happen. Since we only retrieve the additional data for the list, you might see data you don't expect.
When we notice this, we force a recrawl of the data to resync the servers.
Since this data updates quickly, due to the number of questions asked each day, the problem solves itself as new info is added to the list.
As this is just a minor, very temporary, irritant, I don't think we will be addressing this.
The effort to monitor and automatically correct differences in the two servers is too large for the benefit.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Hi,
I received a comment a while ago that a reader is not able to upvote my article.
State Machine Framework in C
I am not sure is a glitch or some other issue. Also, I can't verify if anybody else is also facing the same issue.
Regards,
Nandkishor
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Thanks very much for the report. I am able to vote on your article, so it seems to be working now at least!
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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