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Member 13068130 wrote: and it got worse when I ran into trouble reinstalling Norton
Norton has always been a PITA to reinstall or to uninstall... they only can do good when installing for the first time, and if one or other (don't remember which) antivirus has never been in the system
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Reputation History for 0x01AA
17-Mar-17 8:37PM -8 Debator General Forum Message Downvoted Forum Message Mandatory hint what changed for article/tip/trick which Need "re approvement"
Message: Bugs and Suggestions
I'm not bothering about this -8, I'm only asking me how it is possible/what I'm missing 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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AFAIK, that only happens when someone abuses the "spam" / "abuse" reporting options on the message. Do you also have a "posted spam or abusive message" event at around the same time?
(Don't ask me why they do it. Some people obviously just can't cope with not being able to anonymously down-vote something they disagree with.  )
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Thank you very much for the hint, you are right. I must have been blind, just next line is:
-Mar-17 8:37PM 0 Participant Posted spam or abusive message Forum Message Mandatory hint what changed for article/tip/trick which Need "re approvement"
Now I understand at least the -8 
Thanks again
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Don't worry, I never thought it was you.
And I also don't care about the Points, it was only suspect for me how it is possible to downvote while downvote button is disabled
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I can see the contents in this article. It looks fine to me.
Anything unusual on your machine? Or are you pointing out anything specific?
Life is a computer program and everyone is the programmer of his own life.
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So I'm not crazy after all!!! Hopefully it will get fixed soon.
Bryian Tan
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I already dropped a mail to Sean and Deeksha 
Thanks
Happy Coding
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Works for me now
Thanks
Happy Coding
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I see the contents now. Do you know what causing it? Perhaps some caching issue?
Bryian Tan
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Bryian Tan wrote: I'm not crazy after all
Now, let's not jump to any hasty, unsubstantiated, wrong, conclusions here.....
Speed of sound - 1100 ft/sec
Speed of light - 186,000 mi/sec
Speed of stupid - instantaneous.
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Bryian Tan
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I saw this post[^], read it and was trying to answer - it gave me "posted 2 mins ago".
I couldn't post the answer because "The message is not available", I returned to the Lounge and the message was currently under review as potential spam.
IMHO The message shouldn't be visible when the spam filter traps it, and the spam filter should act before the actual publication.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Actually the message should be displayed with a "not available, in moderation" message until someone let it through or nuke it.
I have seen that behavior several times, and I personally find it good
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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My point was that the message has been visible for a while, the the spam filter edited and "removed" it and then it returned visible when the protectors let it pass.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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The reason the message is there is to let the poster know what's happened. If messages just disappear without any visibility, they could post the message again, with the same effect. This leads to frustrated users, very quickly.
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That's not what I meant, I meant that for a couple of minutes the post, with the full content of it, was visible and it could be answered to. After a couple of minutes the post has been caught by the spam filter and its content substituted with the standard text "Message in moderation".
So the flow was (assuming it is a spam message)
1) Message "Hey, check out these skimpy girls for hire in /location/" appears on the lounge, with full spam payload.
2) Minutes pass with the spam message fully visible and interactive (meaning I could post answers to that)
3) Spam filter wakes up and locks the message, changing the text with its "moderation queue".
It's point 1 that is not right as the spam filter should filter the message before its original content are posted to the world.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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You got in the same thinking error than me...
What he means is... message got into the lounge fully normal, he wanted to answer something and in the time writing the answer then the filters went active and took the message to moderation.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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In this sequence, it means that the message got past the Spam Filter, and someone flagged it as Spam.
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think the post in Q&A from a user is not a question and closed the post. I don't know what I did wrong beside volunteering my time to help other user. 
