Comments by Widder29 (Top 4 by date)

"You can use binary editor to see, or check up StreamReader under debugger."

While debugging I did not see anything looking like a BOM. I am afraid I can not use a binary editor because I can not save the mails to disk and look into them with the editor. Or do you know a binary editor that is able to connect to a webmail service? Then I would check for it, of course.

No, I have no Outlook/Outlook Express - and if I can avoid - I won't install any client based mail software.

I will post some email here. It is a common PayPal e-mail and (therefore I believe) it is not sub-standard. But who knows for shure...

###########################################################
E-MAIL FOLLOWS - All "should be"-Text is marked with ***
All blocks with "should be"-Text are repeated by me in ()-brackets
###########################################################

* OK Gimap ready for requests from ##.###.###.### i12if1339990bkh.43
* CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 UIDPLUS COMPRESS=DEFLATE
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen)
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)]
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 598686366]
* 24310 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDNEXT 37895]
A0002 OK [READ-WRITE] INBOX selected. (Success)
* 22916 FETCH (BODY[] {14521}
Delivered-To: USERNAME@googlemail.com
Received: by ##.###.###.### with SMTP id ##############;
Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:22:03 -0800 (PST)
Received: by ##.###.###.### with SMTP id ###############.############;
Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:22:01 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <payment@paypal.com>
Received: from someserver.com (someserver.com [##.##.###.###])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ######################;
Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:22:00 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning payment@paypal.com does not designate ##.##.###.### as permitted sender) client-ip=##.##.###.###;
DomainKey-Status: good
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning payment@paypal.com does not designate ##.##.###.### as permitted sender) smtp.mail=payment@paypal.com; domainkeys=pass header.From=sendmail@paypal.com
Received: from mx0.phx.paypal.com (mx0.phx.paypal.com [##.###.###.###])
by someserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ###############
for <info@username.de>; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:21:58 +0100 (CET)
DomainKey-Signature: s=dkim; d=paypal.com; c=nofws; q=dns;
h=Received:Date:Message-Id:Subject:X-MaxCode-Template:To:
From:Sender:X-Email-Type-Id:X-XPT-XSL-Name:Content-Type:
MIME-Version;
b=iIo9Uhm+7eu7KDz6w1S/YSRLwjpr0x///rdj18ZudQDh8B7CGzpyzRFR
pnr+5ct6/T4gw/un81kwRohizSwj7PFhxfRcbNjF1zY691gbUarkSHsX8
cOt0e07llFWdKD73+Xmvsk6qCYbAqJ2I92YQ5/fJ97D19tuj3OCMpIwnZ
c=;
Received: (qmail 4368 invoked by uid 993); 15 Dec 2010 16:21:57 -0000
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:21:57 -0800
Message-Id: <#########.####@paypal.com>
Subject: PayPal-Zahlungsanforderung von ### & ###
X-MaxCode-Template: email-transaction-counterparty
To: ### & ### <info@username.de>
From: "######@web.de" <###@web.de>
Sender: sendmail@paypal.com
X-Email-Type-Id: PP274
X-XPT-XSL-Name:
email_pimp/default/de_DE/transaction/seller/TransactionCounterparty.xsl
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--NextPart_048F8BC8A2197DE2036A
MIME-Version: 1.0

----NextPart_048F8BC8A2197DE2036A
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Guten Tag, ### & ###=21

#### hat Ihnen eine Zahlung gesendet.


----------------------------------------------------------------


-----------------------------------
Zahlungsdetails
-----------------------------------

Betrag: =##,## EUR
=20
Transaktionsdatum: 15. Dezember 2010
=20
Transaktionscode: ##################
=20
Betreff: PayPal-Zahlungsanforderung von ### & ###

Loggen Sie sich in Ihr Konto ein, und =F6ffnen Sie die Registerkarte =
=22Kontoauszug=22, um die Details zu dieser Transaktion ei

Hi again. No, I cannot say if there is a BOM in the emails. I also have no "SAVE/SAVE AS" functionality in my webmail, so I can not save it to file and look for it.

With "StreamReader does not like to be forced into UTF-8 mode" I would like to say that (while debugging the StreamReader object) I always find find StreamReader's "CurrentEncoding"-Value set to: CurrentEncoding = 0x00c6bfa4 { CodePageASCII=20127 ISO_8859_1=28591 ...}

This happens any time, no matter what constructor and encoding mode I have used to create the StreamReader object. I expected to see there something else like - let's say - "CodePageUTF8=65001" or similar. I seems clear to me that with using some ASCII codepage there will never be a correct decoding.

Ok, "special characters" maybe was the wrong phrase in this context. I change this phrase to "characters that are specific to certain languages". EXAMPLE: In this special case instead of a german letter 'ä' I get "=C3=A4" - and instead of german letter 'ö' I get "=C3=B6" within the mail body. Same behaviour I see at specific french and norwegian letters.

No, sorry - there is no code that has written some of the mails. In full they are some thousands of (more or less) regular emails from over the world and number is increasing every day. I do not know which mailing software did generate them.

Hope this all helps you understanding what I wanted to say initially. Thank you a lot for trying to help!

Hi, thank you very much for your answer!

First, let me tell you that meanwhile I have tried the other constructor:StreamReader^ reader = gcnew StreamReader(sslstream, true);(where true enables detectEncodingFromByteOrderMarks)

I am very sorry to tell you that this change had no effect.

I still get special characters.

Second, I already know about the BOM - and your suggestion to use the constructor above surely might be a good idea. But I wonder why StreamReader does not like to be forced into UTF-8 mode.

Anyhow - do you have another idea I could try?