Comments by Ziya1995 (Top 200 by date)

I wanna create Image, render it by OnRender, add it into Brush.
I need it get rendered, when i invoke OnRender.
If it is impossible, let me know.

I can solve it in other ways, it is also about curiosity to know whether it is possible or no.

> Where is an instance of MyImage added to an instance of Canvas as a child?
The comment:
//canvas.Children.Add(myimage); // Draws
It draws on Canvas, but not into Brush, if to add MyImage as child to Canvas.Children. You can do it by turning a comment off in the code.
It draws if to use RenderTargetBitmap, but i wanna draw it in this way for 2 reasons:
1. It is not static.
2. It is vector.
I can add it as child, but i wanna know if it is possible to do so, if yes, how?

> What is still unclear?
I don't understand you exactly, but the unclear is it doesn't draw when i fill Canvas.
Do you know how to solve the problem?

> you are not rendering anything at all
I override OnRender and it renders. To admit it, add MyImage as child to Canvas.Children.
I updated the code, you can turn a comment off to run the code to see a red square on Canvas.

Using DrawingVisual results the same. The question is updated and you can see both options.

How to solve the problem?

I got your idea, but the code you gave results 2 errors:

1. The best overloaded method match for 'System.ComponentModel.DependencyPropertyDescriptor.FromProperty(System.ComponentModel.PropertyDescriptor)' has some invalid arguments

2. Argument 1: cannot convert from 'System.Windows.DependencyProperty' to 'System.ComponentModel.PropertyDescriptor'

Ok, i got it, thanks.

I didn't know, i just saw the "Marketing" tag and decided to post such a question.
I hope someone will help me.

Ok, i am glad.

Great, it worked.
I also will accept my own solution, because yours is not C#.

I tried it in C# and it works.

> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/ms742537(v=vs.90).aspx
It is for BlurBitmapEffect, not for BlurEffect.

Why can't you just fix my code or post the working code that you have?
You say it works, give me links not having the solution, don't post the code which is easy to write.
You say it works, where is your code which works?
If you don't have a solution, let me know.
What is wrong? How can i help to solve the problem?

You didn't post the code and i don't see how to make it work.
But i posted the code and you can see it doesn't animate (see my updated question).
If i am wrong, you can fix it giving the solution.
If you want, i also can post the code of animating Line.X2Property, where the same principle works which doesn't work with BlurEffect.RadiusProperty.

> All PixelSHader Effects deriving from the ShaderEffects class are dependencyproperties
I know and that is why i feel strange why my code doesn't work for BlurEffect.RadiusProperty, but for Line.X2Property.

You say it works, but my code doesn't work, if it works for you, you can post your working code and i mark it as solution.
You can say i am wrong, but it doesn't solve the problem, to solve it you can post the working code.

Notes:
1. It must be done using Storyboard.
2. When i call BeginAnimation on a BlurEffect instance, it works.

> as any dependency property that is of double format is valid for animation.
Not, it is not true and that is a problem.
BlurEffect.RadiusProperty is not valid for animation.
I can animate Line.X2Property, but not BlurEffect.RadiusProperty in the same way using Storyboard.
If you can animate BlurEffect.RadiusProperty using Storyboard, you can post the code.

The question remains:
How can i know about property paths?

> Perhaps not the easiest solution but .... :laugh:
No, it is not what i want.
Turns out it is impossible without extensions or 3rd party tools.

So how can i know what property path to use?
For example, how could i know in this case that i should write "Effect.Radius"?
How can i get a list of property paths?
Is there a place on msdn describing all of them?

> don't test every screen point as you do now.
But i need to do so.

> Yes, hittesting is expensive, especially if you do it every time for every pixel
I consider it as impossible to do in WPF.

You mean i should run UI in a parallel thread?
It is impossible in C# to run UI in a parallel thread.

If you are not agree, you can show your code where you run UI outside a main thread.

> if the Geom class can deal with it
Yes, it deals, however slower.
I don't understand you, you mean FillContains can't check whether a point inside or not at complex geometries? If so you can write a geometry and send me a code and i check out. We also can do next: i create a complex geometry as ellipse with a hole inside.
But i can't create a horse shoe geometry, i can't draw it.

> try to follow what it does, and you will see complexity.
What complexity? My app will get frozen when i call FillContains of a complex geometry?
Can you say exactly what you mean?

I added a code where i do like you said, i use a separate thread to animate one ellipse, but VisualTreeHelper.HitTest slows down the app.

> Thread.Sleep
It is much more inaccurate than Timers.Timer.

> do under Invoke only one thing: pure UI manipulation
Visual Hit Test is UI manipulation and it is slow.

Ok, you are right, i am wrong.
You have a solution, but don't want to post it, in this case don't help me, if you don't want - it is still up to you.

But you can still answer my questions, if you can and want it at the same time.

> If you showed decent effort and gave me some hope, it would be a diffent story.
Feels like i have a chance, if you want, you can let me know what i can do to show decent effort and you will post the solution you have.

> If you don't want to get rid of timer, the whole "problem" hardly worth bothering.
I don't want, thread loop increases CPU and i feel it can't solve the problem.

> WPF in such operation is blazing fast
I checked FillContains and Visual Hit Test and they are not fast.
FillContains was checked in a different parallel thread, it was better, but not enough.

> Do you still have the problem?
Yes, i do.
Are you gonna post the right version of my code, where it will work fast as you say?

> Do it in a simple way, and it will work.
I can't.

> And the problem is really simple
If it is easy, can you you post the code?

> Did you notice it?
I noticed the solution and in my view it has nothing related to the problem.
No matter how i create Timer once or every time, the problem is caused by VisualTreeHelper.HitTest.

I said what causes the problem, but you say it is Timer.
If you don't see how i fixed Timer creating, you can fix it yourself and post the code, are you agree?

If you can't solve the problem, just let me know.
But if you have some potentiality, let's continue.

I updated the code where i create Timer once.
Is it ok?

> Then something is fundamentally wrong. Few ellipses is nothing at all, should be blazing fast.
You don't understand, you even don't know what causes the problem, but i repeat:
"WPF: Hit testing is slow." - the topic name shows what is a cause of slow performance.
The code has a certain line commented "// Slows down" you can see as a cause of slow performance.

Solution 2 is no solution at all having nothing related to the problem.
Do you have a solution or not?

My code shows the line which slows down the app and it is noted by the comment: "// Slows down". If you remove this line, you can see no problem, but with the line you get slow performance.

> on each timer event, you create a new timer
You said the problem is Timer, i fixed it, but no difference, it works same well until i add the line VisualTreeHelper.HitTest.

> thread solution will be the simplest
Thread is no option, it increases CPU usage.

Do you have solution or not?

> Why is it slow: many thousands ellipses?
No, it gets slow after a few ellipses.

> Perhaps we would need to see how you made is slow...
I added the code.

I don't understand you.
It calculated it for the Geometry class, not for the RectangleGeometry class.
It can calculate it for any instance of the Geometry class no matter how complex the instance is.
Can i make you sure, if i post a code where it calculates points for your geometry you write a code for to me?

I don't understand you.
My code calculates points for the Geometry class, not for a rectangle. It means it can calculate points for any complex geometry in the same way. No matter how complex geometries are, it can calculate it, because they are still instances of the Geometry class.
I can change RectangleGeometry to EllipseGeometry in the same way.
I can group many geometries to form an instance of the Geometry class and then calculate it in the same way.

My code uses RectangleGeometry for simplification to make it easier to understand.
Now, can you explain what is wrong?

You are wrong.
I posted the solution (3).

By saying "2d geometry" i mean anything able to be presented as 2d geometry, no matter rect, elllipse or complex random shapes.
I need a built-in way to get points or determine if a certain point is inside.

> What is your geometry, e.g:?
It is any 2d geometry, simply anything able to be a 2d geometry in WPF like rectangle, ellipse or random complex shapes. It can be a combination of 2 or more geometries. I can show a code sample of what is a 2d geometry in the context.

I need a built-in way to do it with any 2d geometry quick.
Is there a built-in way?

No, you don't understand.
I need a built-in way as a ready method to do it.
It is WPF, a rich GUI framework and i need a ready to use way.
Is there a built-in way?

I added the explanation.

Got it, it may mean WPF doesn't get affected by changing DPI, may be it takes the same DPI, not the change one. I have read somewhere that to change DPI just by clicking a button is not enough.

By anyway i am gonna try drawing by pixels using scale-transform to draw in device dependent pixels.
I have already managed to get a grid by adding additional double values, when i make it work automatic for all the DPI resolutions, i post the solution.

Have you seen the screenshot of XAML?
It shows 2 empty left lines.
But as i understand you say they are not empty.

In the C# code you can see a horizontal grid, but distances between lines differ, but you say they are perfectly spaced, it means distances between them is same by 1 pixel.
Here is the screenshot of C# where you can see different distances between lines:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MmPdhmZzQAR2RqTXd4SUdGOGc/view

If you get the same image, it is what i call a bug.

I doubt it is true, i feel like you get the same result, but call it right.

Have you checked the C# code i gave in my question?

No, i can't.
If you can do it in some magic way, you can take my code, fix it and post.

> that try to snap it to the true pixels cause a problem...
SnapsToDevicePixels has nothing to do with DPI, it just aligns it.
Yes, i think the problem's cause is that.

How to solve the problem?
If the chance is only to try scale transform to draw by device pixels, let me know.
Why does it render a shape differently at different positions?

It is exactly what i am gonna do.
More precisely i am gonna use scale-transform to set DPI for my WPF app as it is the sole way to do so.

Have you got what is a problem?
Is there no other way than to try the option for setting DPI?

Screenshot:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MmPdhmZzQAOGpXMUZEdDNCMlE/view?usp=sharing

The problem is i can't make a grid by 1 pixel lines nice and crisp, some lines skip leaving empty places and it results in a messed grid.

I just wanna draw a grid, how can i do it?
WPF is one the best GUI frameworks and i can't draw just a grid, how can i?

It is because DPI is different on different devices.
Screenshot:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MmPdhmZzQAOGpXMUZEdDNCMlE/view?usp=sharing

My end goal is to draw a grid by many 1 pixel lines.
it is done so to show the problem for plain.

> Is this homework or assignment?
It is an ability i wanna get to create glow effect.
WPF lacks this ability and that is why the same geometry clips and draws differently, clipped geometry doesn't match drawn geometry despite the fact the geometry is same. As a result i can't get the glow effect. The test was done using shapes.
So it is not homework, it is a very serious problem because of which i can't create the glow effect.

I have read about setting DPI size, can it solve it?
But you said i can not do so in WPF. May be i have a chance by setting DPI size if it is possible?

If EdgeMode.Aliased using shapes.
The same geometry:
Clipped != drawn.
Clipped geometry doesn't match drawn geometry.

I am trying, for example:
I draw 2 overlapping paths, but when i exclude, it makes the wrong path.

May be you can try and say?

> If you don't want to listen to my suggestions
Make you suggestions, i listen.

> you are not doing anyone a favor by explaining anything
As i understand you didn't understand something out the question, ask your questions and i answer.

> Did you ever responded to my suggestion on using an alpha channel? I don't think so.
The code given in this thread in the question uses the alpha channel and this tech is what i use to create the needed effect in Windows Forms and now trying to do the same in WPF.
I did not respond, sorry, but now you can be sure - using alpha channel is the major part, the problem comes at other stages.

Next?

I also note i am pretty close to get the effect.

The problem here is you, but as i said i will continue to repeat it in different forms until you understand however you could get it just by reading my question here.
You just like repeat some rubbish without checking it whether it works or not hoping it will work.

> you need to describe exactly and formally
I gave a code piece you can run in WPF to see what it renders to understand what i want.

> Why BlurEffect does not work?
BlurEffect has completely a different goal from OuterGlowBitmapEffect.
But you don't believe me and you also don't know what does it do, but no problem - you can just check BlurEffect and see what happens and if you can achieve the effect described here in some magic way, you can save me from trouble i am in.

You can continue repeating some rubbish and giving lots of answers i don't need for just like now you answered BlurEffect without even checking it yourself just hoping for some "magic".

You can hate my demand, don't like how i demand and blah blah but the problem: you have not answered a pretty good described question on the forum and it is -1 to you.

If you wanna just solve the problem in just a few minutes, you can miss the thread.
I hope next time you will answer my question better)

Meanwhile i am trying to get the needed effect and when i find it and post it.

> It's amazing how demanding you can be.
In fact i am pretty shocked WPF does not support such a simple function (it is GUI framework) out of box despite it used to support it some time ago.

DropShadowEffect and BlurEffect are not same things, i tried them and they don't result the same effect i can get even in Windows Forms.
Now i am learning those 3 ones.
When i find solution, i post it.

You can repeat, give all the information out msdn, list all the classes of .Net Framework if you want to, but it will not answer my question, sorry, i don't blame you, it is just a hard way to solve problems in this world.

But as you want i can repeat the same thing in different forms.
Go to:
http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/1009148/How-to-make-a-glow-effect-for-a-line-shape
Read:
"Note: DropShadowEffect and BlurEffect don't work."
Check the code and see what effect i want, because the code results exactly the effect i want, but it has a problem you can read about via the link i gave to you.

You can continue giving me what doesn't solve and that is good, because you also learn it along the way and may be once you will give right solution i hope.

And as you learn it here and if you are still interested, i can help you.
Here is an image:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MmPdhmZzQAelI2Q21qdmRoZ2s/view?usp=sharing
It is output of the code given on the other thread i linked to.
I have yet to analyze:
1. OpacityMask
2. CombinedGeometry
3. Clip
You can analyze them too to build the needed effect hence solving the problem.

I think i will find a way to solve it just like i solved all other problems.

If you have read the other thread you can see there was OuterGlowBitmapEffect in WPF to do it, but it is no longer supported in .Net 4.0.
If you have a question, ask, all what i want for now is to solve this problem, if you can or find a way, let me know.

I am gonna check out Opacity Mask.

My link has a code which does it.
I also can create it very easy in Windows Forms, because i can clear.
You need to read what i wrote in another thread i linked to to understand.

The principle is simple using StrokeThickness.

While i have not analyzed your first solution, i feel like it has nothing related to my problem.

If you wanna understand, you can check the code in the other thread to see what happens.

> There is no such technical thing as "glow".
Wrong, it is absolutely the certain thing, it is not about some "super" effects, it is about the exact thing i can do in Windows Forms.
If you will read the other thread, you can see WPF used to support it as one function.

Because of the next goal:
http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/1009148/How-to-make-a-glow-effect-for-a-line-shape
If you know how to solve the problem in a better way, i would be happy to know.

While i am reading your solution.

Can you link me to WinRT documentation?
The question is about managed WinRT, not non managed.
As i understand you are talking about non managed WinRT and it is way far not like WPF.
If so, it doesn't answer the question.

Ok, i just hoped whether someone has information out the WEB, i didn't find anything.

> Don't you see that these 2 overrides is exactly what expose the visual of the declaring class?

I sent "this" as "Visual Parent" in constructor of "VisualCollection" and thought it is enough, but it was not, because it is done by 2 override voids.
I change it to another UI element and it still draws on Window.

What does "Visual Parent" mean?

> Can you spot the difference?
The only difference i spot is 2 protected override voids.

I checked the code via the link before i came here and it didn't work like yours until i tweaked it:
WPF app has Grid on Window by default and that is why i didn't see the drawing, i removed it and it worked.
Solved!

> if you work with 3d you "Need" something to create your models...
I specify my goal to make it clear:
I wanna create primitive models like 3d Ellipse or 3d Cube.
I wanna do it in code using C#, not XAML.
I wanna go for 3d in WPF to make an app with 3d models out scratch in WPF.

The code given through your link is written in XAML.
I need in C#.
You can convert it into C# and give me and if it works, i accept your solution.

You copied it from another forum.
I don't wanna convert models into XAML.
I need a code to create a model, for example, 3d Ellipse, 3d Cube in WPF.

> YES! It's a POOL THREAD the timer fires on.
If i tell - it fires on UI thread.
If i don't tell - it fires on a pool thread.
Result - i can tell.

> There is no way to tell it which thread to use.
I can tell to run on UI thread by invoking, but if i wanna invoke it on none UI thread, i need to use SynchronizationContext class.

You are wrong, SynchronizingObject set to Control makes sure it will run on UI thread.
It fires Elapsed event on UI thread, i wanna fire it on a thread i created.

So, i can tell Timers.Timer to run on UI thread.
Now, how to tell it to run on my thread?

You mean i can't fire Elapsed event on my thread like i fire on UI thread by Invoke?

I updated the question.

The result:
1. I can't stop mouse working outside my WPF Window.
2. I can't change Mouse Position in WPF.

Ok.

> No, you can set mouse position.
It works without Pinvoke in Windows Forms and with Pinvoke in WPF.
It doesn't work without Pinvoke in WPF.
WPF has no API to change mouse position.

If you know, let me know)

By "disable" i mean to keep mouse to work in my WPF app and not outside.
I can create a window and move it by mouse position, top most and activated - it can disable mouse, but it is not a professional way.

I know about Mouse Capture, it doesn't disable mouse down outside WPF Window.
I can't neither set mouse position nor disable it in WPF.
It is bad news.

Ok.

Solution is Margin.
Solved.

It worked, but not enough.

It sets location to Left, Top.
But my goal is to define exact location.
How to define exact location like axb?

I updated the question.

> Normally I'd use Canvas.SetTop, and Canvas.SetLEft
It doesn't work, i updated the question.

> But where do you place the Canvas then?
I don't modificate WPF app, this is MainWindow.

> If its on a stackpanel it would always center it
Now can you answer? I see 3 options:
1. It is impossible to set location on MainWindow (this).
2. It is possible, you can do it in the next way...

if it is possible, please write a code itself to finish the thread.
At the moment the question is unanswered.

> On Android, it's the main language. :-)
C++ QT (no Mac OS), Adobe AIR (no Linux) support almost all said platforms - Windows, Androids, iOS.
But other 2 guys said it is impossible
> The short answer is: no, you cannot do it.
> its no good in any one based on performance

C++ QT compiles into native + performance.
Adobe AIR can compile into native too.
What is a problem?

And some people say being cross platform doesn't work, it is buggy.

> On Android, it's the main language. :-)
Android Java is different and you can't run Oracle Java running on Windows on Android.

> Now: Java is supported everywhere. I have no idea how you manages to exclude some platforms.
Windows, Linux, Mac OS.
No Android, no iOS.
http://java.com/en/download/help/sysreq.xml

> With Xamarin, you miss the point. You need to write common code
I know it, i checked out Xamarin too, common code is not GUI, it is logic behind, i will still need to write platform specific codes separately

> And Microsoft promises multi-platform .NET at the end of this year.
Sounds great, i know C# Windows Forms.
I checked out .Net Core, it has no GUI.
Will i be able to write C# code once and run on all said platforms without correcting code for platforms separately like in Xamarin?

> You can consider Qt, GTK+, FreePascal, and more.
Great.

i am checking out your [EDIT].

> I would not consider anything by Adobe as anything serious, but this is up to you to decide.
Advice is got, thanks.

> Not anything useful?
I am not fighting, skip this, i have no idea how to explain that Java, .Net and Xamarin do not support listed platforms, what best means and so on.

You said:
1. Qt
2. GTK+
3. FreePascal
and your [EDIT].
It look promising, great, that is what i wanted, now you understand what i want, thanks.

> Let's agree on stopping this conversation.
After the whole conversation you said great useful technologies, thanks.

> After all, looking is not enough, it needs seeing.
It has no support for Windows.
Xamarin.Forms is not supported by Mac OS.

> 2. No, "best" does not mean anything certain. Something could be "best" for you, not for me.
Best means something good, not exactly number one, listen, you are really kidding me, skip this part, if you don't what know "best" means, you can skip this question, i am wasting my time talking about damn - what "best" means?!
I could say:
What cross platform APIs are there?
I am not gonna play philosophical games.

> Are you going to ignore it?
Of course no, i am gonna look at them.

> why asking the question you asked?
I asked the question to get information about cross platform libraries just like the ones i found on the internet.
But you didn't say anything about them(
But you said it is impossible, you meant they don't work, i am gonna check out them.

> Now, "Xamarin shares code across, it is not one code running across" is the saying which does not make any certain sense and certainly cannot be true.
Xamarin shares code, it has no one GUI library for all 3 platforms, you make logic and create separate UI.
What are you talking about?

> using vague or incorrect notions as "best". It's to your benefit to understand this incorrectness,
I just said "best" to get some advice, not really number one in market, i could say:
What cross platforms libraries are there?
I hope now you got what "best" means here.

There are so many cross platforms APIs, but you say it is impossible or bad, i don't understand, i am very confused.

> its no good in any one based on performance.
Same C++ QT code is compiled into native code for all listed platforms - what performance issue might be when it is native?

I wanna create a high performance app once and run on:

- Windows desktop
- Linux
- Mac OS
- iOS
- Android

You advice Java and .Net:
Java support:
Widnows
Linux
Mac OS

.Net Support:
Windows

> It's not my fault that you "know all that"; you never indicated what you know and what not.
I am a friend, not enemy, we should not show what we know and what we don't know, because we know so many things) and to make question easy to get, i make it specific by asking what cross platform way, framework is the best or at least in the top.
It is simple, i am new, i don't know what cross platform ways are there and i ask to get your help.

> And what you say about Xamarin is gibberish.
So explain me, it shares code across Android, iOS, Mac OS and it has no GUI for 3 of them at the same time, it is meant to be common logic and separate GUI.

> Adobe... Everything created by Adobe is proprietary and, in certain sense, low-quality.
That is what i need from you, more information about Adobe AIR, ok it is low quailty.
But Unity3D is cross platform and it is not low quality, just look at games it made.

I know C# Windows Forms and want to choose WPF, but i would like something cross platform.

I get it as you mean it is not guaranteed it will work, so there were cases when it did not.
Ok.

None of said by you support all said platforms at the same time.
So, your answer is wrong.

> So, I'll just mentioned two most widely used options which are
I know all of that, i asked a specific question, but you can also describe lots of other ways that do not support platforms listed in the question.

Adobe AIR is write once and run on all said platforms in exception of Linux and that is great and i wanna know is it true? I heard it doesn't work normally, makes bugs and so on, can you explain? I would happy happy)

Many people tried it until me and i just can't check it on all platforms in a few days.

If you know, say me what do you think, does it work normally or makes many bugs? I have just read it doesn't work normally, is it true?
Say me what you think, i would get any information about it now.

> if it does not work as well as these organisations claim.
You mean it doesn't work?
Right now i am stuck between .Net WPF and Adobe AIR.

Wait, there are so many technologies, for example Adobe AIR.
It says it is cross platform, i understand it as you can write once and run anywhere with Adobe Runtime.
There are also C++ QT and Unity3D.

All of that means you can write once and run on all said platforms without normalizing code for a specific platform.
And Unity3D has high performance.

You say no, but C++ QT, Unity3D, Adobe Air are saying conversely or i don't understand something?

What is wrong?

> but that's!
it would be cool if you answer my question:
Can i write high performance app once (not WEB) and compile it into native code for different platforms?
Xamarin shares code, it doesn't run the same code on different platforms.
Can you answer?

For example, i read about Adobe Air and it says it is cross platforms, but i can't understand what it means - sharing code?

Can you say is it possible to write once a simple GUI app and run across said platforms?
Or do i always need to change code to fit platforms separately?

> should be "Windows Mobile", right?
No, it is Windows like Windows 7 or 8.1.

> what is here a difference to Android / iOS?
I want my app support Windows desktop, Android, iOS because i will get more money, it is also would be pretty cool if they do support Windows Store, Play Store, App Store.

Right now i am a bit confused because of the 2 major things:
Web based cross platform technologies are slow, i don't want HTML/CSS/Javascript - just exclude it.
Others confuse me, because i don't know they share code or it is completely write once run anywhere.

For example, i downloaded Xamarin and it turned out i can't share GUI, i need to write GUI separately for all 3 platforms - i don't want it.

I don't now, but if you know whether it is possible or the max level way is to share code and normalize it separately for different platforms - let me know)

Wait, help me understand, is it possible or not?
If not possible as you say "dream on", let me know and will not ask other questions and i will stop searching it.

Cross platform development with high performance.
Without sharing any code, just write once and run.
Can you say it is possible or not?

I wanna make any type of app like Paint or Tic Tac Toe game.

And i compare .Net Core to JVM as you say.

In JVM using Java i can create an app with GUI without any need to port, from the start to the end only in Java and run on 3 platforms!

But you say .Net Core is just a set of libraries common to all .Net frameworks of the same power as Portable Class Libraries that have no GUI!
They just gathered all libraries common to all .Net frameworks (PCLs) into the one called .Net Core.

But if .Net Core is just another JVM as you say, it should be a new framework, not a set of libraries common to all .Net frameworks!

Your answer says:
.Net Core is a set of libraries common to all .Net frameworks.
I don't know you are right or not, but the answer is accepted.
Ok!

> .NET Core runs .NET framework, what more bigger you want it to run for you?

In Java we can create games and run across platforms without any need to port.
.Net Core is not Java and my dream to create games and run across the 3 platforms is not real with .Net Core.

.Net Core is a set of libraries common to all .Net frameworks.
Ok!

What? I don't get what you say(
You can read the question again.

I feel like i can create Windows Runtime apps using C#, but without .Net for Windows store apps?

I am a bit confused, i open .Net Store supported APIs, but Windows namespace has only a few types and i don't see how to create graphics:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh454041.aspx

Look, you Windows.UI namespace contains only Color! Just Color? And i am gonna create a rich user interface using just only Color type?
Do you get it now?!

> Both are .NET based - so what the question
Both are different:
WPS is .Net.
.Net Store is a subset of .Net.

> It is not for Windows Store apllications only...
False, it is only for .Net for Windows Store apps:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn600165(v=vs.110).aspx

> Java is not .NET and .NET is not Java...
Ok, conclusion .Net Core has no GUI?

> Java cross platform UI is somehow primitive and does not fit into the native look and feel of that platform...
It doesn't matter, people create cross platform games using Java - fact.

> but first you have to decide what do you want to do...
I wanna create a simple GUI game in .Net Core, is it possible?
Can you say 100% sure is it possible to create a nice game in .Net Core to run across platforms?

> what do you want to do...
I want to develop all my apps only using .Net Core without a need to share the code to get GUI - is it possible?

If you don't know let me know, may be .Net Core is new and there is no enough information.

I ask the same question in different forms:

1. Can i develop cross platforms GUI in .Net Core?
Java has Swing and Java can create cross platform games.

> Will .Net Core have GUI?
PCLs have no GUI - fact, it is only for none GUI code, only logic behind.

My question (Quote):
"Can i write a simple game, create simple 3d models, create one GUI across platforms using .Net Core?"

I ask a real question, yes, may be i describe in a way you don't understand, but let me know and i explain)

> If you cannot ask a question properly then I suggest you don't ask!!!
Sorry if i asked in a wrong way, but i always get answers and this will not be an exception.

> you can develop the business layer of your application to be independent of any platform as data, file and other IO related APIs were unified...

I can't develop UI? It means i can't make a simple game using .Net Core?
I always need to share the code, because i can't make a simple GUI app only in .Net Core?

Java has cross platforms GUI, but .Net Core not?
It is where i am confused(

As i understand you clearly know what is .Net Core.
So, please say me what is it?
1. Common libraries used by all the .Net frameworks?
2. A new framework made to be cross platform like Java?

Is it hard for you to say in a few words what you clearly understand?

I came from there and posted the question.
Can you help me understand?
Common libraries or a new cross platform C#?

I had read it before to post the question, it just explains how it works.
But i need what it might do.

For example, i wanna make a simple GUI game.
I need to make only logic on .Net Core and share code to make GUI?
Or i can write the whole game in .Net Core and run on all the 3 platforms?

You can read the questions:
"I looked at Portable Class Libraries and it turned out it has no GUI, but only logic."

But i need one framework to rule different platforms.
I am interested in the power of .Net Core, it is new and i wanna know what it might do.
For example, are there libraries for 3d like in WPF?
May be i can't create even a simple GUI?
and so on.

No, Google does not offer reference for HTML or CSS.

It is a pretty simple question.
I can fix the question like next:
Is one JS, HTML or CSS code always run across all browsers?
Do all browsers implement JS, HTML or CSS in the same way?

Can you answer?
You can just point clauses like:
1. Dependent
2. Independent
3. ...

Google has its own documentation for HTML and CSS or i should rely on w3schools?

"I want" is not my quote.
I need official reference of HTML and CSS for Chrome, but seems like there is not such one, yes?

> you can add reference to whatever you have in GAC.
I don't know what is GAC, but BCL is not included into any API completely.
There are 3 APIs and the list shows everything included into a certain API in exception BCL.

The answer from another forum:
"You can't use Windows Forms in an Android app. That doc is misleading - it is showing you everything in the BCL, not the classes specifically supported in Xamarin Android."

That was a problem.

Solved: Solution 2.

No, you didn't answer.

I opened the next page:
http://androidapi.xamarin.com/
I see "System.Windows.Forms" on the page in "Base Class Library", it means it is supported by Android.
I wanna add a reference to it to use in my Android app.
But i can't do it, how to do?

I feel like "System.Windows.Forms" is Windows specific, but that fact - it is in the list for Android. What is wrong?

Is it native or my app created in Xamarin needs some Virtual Machine?

1. Portable Class Library has no GUI.
2. Everything written in Xamarin should be Cross Platform and run on Windows desktop, IOS, Android and Mac.
But i see Xamarin.IOS and Xamarin.Android - they are separate.
I see Xamarin APIs and they are separate for IOS, Android, Mac.
What does it mean?

Can i write once in Xamarin GUI and run on all 4 platforms including Windows desktop?

Ok, i got everything, thank you.

I accepted, but i knew all of that, the real answer is:

C++ Standard Library is much more less powerful than Java Standard Library and it is fact, just look at lists of both of them.
You can not create a good app in C++ Standard, but you can do it in Java Standard. Why? Because C++ Standard is just not for apps and applets.
Yes, it is possible to create the same Java Standard to compile anywhere without JVM instead of running, but it is not made today.

I got everything.

""Much more less power" is about some relative measures, not the "real answer"."
C++ purpose and Java purpose are completely different, so, to measure them is not right, ok.

Yes, i knew all of that and resulted the next conclusion:
I can write a code and compile it (the same code) for other operations systems.

In this case, as you say, i can create a game on pure console I/O based on standard C++ library and compile it anywhere depending on compilers.

I think i can create a pretty good stuff like "Jewels" game with some good graphics on pure C++ Standard Library and compile it anywhere depending on compilers.
Just like in Java!

If Java and C++ could support the same amount of operation systems, it could be the same quality of cross platform apps in Java and C++, first to run, second to compile and then run.

But! The next points confuse me!:
1. When i read about C++ Standard i see opinions like even simple GUI is not possible without frameworks like QT. C++ Standard has no GUI.
2. C++ standard library is so small i saw on a website, Java Standard library is so big.
3. You say console based games, but Java cross platform apps are not console based, they are based on nice GUI.

Do you understand now?
Why it is possible to create nice GUI on Java Standard, but not possible on C++ standard?
I have read and it writes C++ Standard Library has no GUI.

I think the right answer is the next:
It is possible to create the same language like Java where we write once and compile anywhere where JVM can work today and it will has all the abilities of Java Standard Library, briefly, it will be the same Java replacing running with compiling-to-run.

C++ Standard is just not specialized to have all the power of Java, for example, it has no GUI, Standard Library is so small in compare to Java, why?
Because C++ also would run on none screen device where GUI is not possible to run.

It is simple, C++ is specialized for apps and applets, but it could and we could have the same power of Java to compile anywhere.

You need to understand that i know all of that literally!
I know ALL OF THAT!
I ask a specific question and you think i am not aware of all that, but i have read all that including those Wiki links until i came here and read everyday.

Now, let's stop at the point i need:
"Nothing is cross-platform, except common standard library things, such as console and file I/O. It's not "cross-platform", it's portable."
YES! It is portable and i can compile the same code for different OS.

Java can create a cross platform good stuff like games.
And now: can i create such the complex good stuff using C++ using "common standard library things, such as console and file I/O" to compile the same stuff for other platforms without nothing like QT?

I wanna create a cool game in C++ using C++ Standard Library to compile the same code for different OS, is it possible without nothing like QT?

Java runs the code on different platforms.
C++ compiles the same code (i mean its own C++ code, but as powerful as Java's) for other platforms or its portable capabilities are much less than Java's?

I asked the same question in different poses.

I know about platform, Java has JVM, C++ is native machine code, i know that.

Explain, can i create the same cross platform app in C++ like in Java and compile it anywhere?
Can i create a powerful cross platform app in C++ just like people do in Java, and compile it anywhere?

I know about platforms and compilers, of course i mean existing platform and compilers.

I feel like Java cross platform apps are more powerful than C++ compiling anywhere.
I get it as i can create the same powerful cross platforms apps like in Java and compile them anywhere in C++.

What is wrong?

You said only a little piece of code is portable in C++, it means it is not as powerful as Java? Right?
I know Java is powerful.

Can you help me?
Right now i get it as C++ is much more less portable than Java and that is why Java is better from this aspect, is it right?

> No you cannot, in general case.
That is what confuses me!

In my understanding i get it as:
You can write a cross platform app in Java and run it anywhere with JVM installed.
And you can write the same app in C++ and compile it anywhere, what is wrong?

I don't wanna argue, i need you explain me:
We can write once in C++ and compile anywhere, right?
So, why Java is better, just because you can run anywhere?
Please help me.

Explain me, i feel good at compiling an app separately.
Can i make the same stuff on both of them?
I wanna make cross platform games on C++ once and compile anywhere.
I wanna have an easy language, not hard.

Help me, i am really confused, why cross platform Java is the most popular, when you can write once and run anywhere while being native, i can't understand.

What is easier?
One user said if i wanna make apps i need to use managed languages like Java or C#.
But in actually i can write a cross platform app in C++ and compile anywhere just by click and that is what confuses me!

Cross platform Java vs cross platform C++:
Are they of the same power?

Now i wanna make a choice, compiling anywhere is no problem for me.
Should i choose Java or C++?
It makes sense, i hope you will help.
I mean only cross platform C++.

We write once code in Java and run it on any platform.
We write once code in C++ and compile it on any platform.
Is it all the difference?

Ok, thanks, i will ask on home website where people sell.

My program is going to be 5 dollars.
There are lots of apps about 15 dollars with 100 sells.
Some of them are free to run, demo or nothing at all.

My question:
If i upload only the video preview and no app, will they buy it?

For example:
http://codecanyon.net/
I see there apps sometimes possible and not possible to download an app for free, but in the both cases they buy.

I hope here is someone who used to do such a business to help me.

I wanna know if i show only the video, is it a problem?
And what do developers do in this case?

Take a look, now the code is simple and i also uploaded a video file:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZJZjpq99Y
Forget the code from another thread, follow only this thread.

Look, i uploaded a video file:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZJZjpq99Y
Follow only this thread, forget others.

I made the code simpler and i am recording video, we are gonna get everything plain.
Forget the code in another thread.

That was different question, that is why i asked in another thread, i hope it makes no serious problems.

So, can you solve this problem?
I can record a video to show what is going wrong.
It is a bit complicated.

Yes, it is what i have a problem with.
I can make a video to show what is going wrong.

Can you fix the problem?
I would be happy.

It is not reposting, another question is solved, but now i need to pass, you mistake, it is not the same question.
First question was how to call it.
This second question how to pass it, i don't know.
Just fix it and will be ok.
It is easy.

I accepted another answer, but as you wanted, yes, i accepted yours too.
In actually it is better to have one answer accepted to not confuse novices.
I got everything i wanted to get out the answer.
Thanks.

Great, ok.

Yes, ok.

So, there is no direct way in the case of native machine code like C++ executable, just to press a button and decompile is impossible.

But in the case with managed code, it is easy, you can use software like .Net Reflector to get readable source code just by pressing a button.

Right?
It is my last question.

You are talking about .Net assemblies?
I am talking about .Net .exe app.

Ok, let's be simple, i made an app on C# .Net, and now i have .exe file i can use to run my whole app.
So, can anyone convert it into a readable source code, then customize it?

I am talking about .Net .exe app, no C++, managed .Net app, possible?

+5
I removed my exception line to make the program work normally again.
Then i created, but not initialized:
public static Form1 form2;
and assigned:
public static int i4_size = i3_size + Form1.form2.items.itemslength;
That gave the same exception in another part of the code, but InnerException showed the same line of Data.

And as i understand when i call Data.speed, a simple initialized double variable, it initializes all the variables in the static Data class, when form1 is not initialized i don't know exactly this part, but i am gonna examine all that, thank you!

As i understand it is safer to use class instances instead of static classes to be sure they are instantiated normally.

Yes, that is what i can not understand, i can record a video, upload to youtube where you can watch how that exception happens.

Let's be gentle, i really need help, i learned how to use Thread Timer as you teached me the last time and it turned out the best option, better than all the 3 timers of .Net Framework, and now i can use Thread Timer, so you can be sure, it is not wasting time on me, and if it was easy, i would not post this question, although i post easy questions sometimes. I hope it is ok)

Let's get to task.
I know what is null, i mean i don't know how a class can be null, an instance of the class can be null, not a class.

So, can you teach me how a class (Data) can be null?
And how to fix this problem?

I can't understand, i need to change a value of Data.speed, it is double and already initialized.
My program works fine if don't do it.

Error happens at the line labeled "exception":
Data.speed = 5; // exception
If i take that line away, the program works fine.

I don't get something?
What can i do?

I checked and added, take a look.
What to do now?

I never do something to Data, i just named a static class "Data" and that is all.
I always used Data static variables and now can use, but in this case with this variable it gives exception.

So, what does "Data is null" mean and how can i fix it?

I added:
Data.speed = 5; // exception
Let me know, if i can help.

As i understand it uses Pinvoke to make calls to unmanaged code.
I need to do everything in managed way.

WPF kinda supports touch events.
Can i apply this WPF function in Windows Forms?

If there is no managed way to do mouse down touch and recognize whether user clicks or touchs, let me know.

Look, i updated solution and that works greatly!
Is it what you meant?
is it the best way?
Mistake me or approve it as the fully usable principle for my next projects.

1. I have a vector based animation and a bitmap based animation.
Bitmap based draws smoother, because i don't need to recalculate lots of numbers and that increases performance.
2. Using Threads. Your quote:

"organize infinite loop, use System.Threading.Thread.Sleep for certain period of time inside the loop. Then calculate current time using System.DateTime.Now; depending on current time, update BallPosition and call Form.Invalidate."

And now my question - how can you get precise DateTime using Thread Sleep which is not precise?
Here is a quote:
"Timers are not guaranteed to execute exactly when the time interval occurs, but they are guaranteed to not execute before the time interval occurs."
It is impossible to capture a right moment using Thread.Sleep, but you can capture when it is lower or upper than the right moment.

For example, we wanna capture 1000 milliseconds,
Thread Sleep counts 1000 milliseconds, but it mistakes by 50 milliseconds and we get 1050 milliseconds.
Inaccuracy: 50 milliseconds.
And now we can use your way to reduce inaccuracy down to nearly 1000 milliseconds to get 1000 -+ 5 milliseconds if to consider Thread.Sleep inaccuracy as 5 milliseconds by 1 interval.

> You talked here enough not to help you.
I am friend, not enemy)

The other user gave right answer:
http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html
I am checking out whether it is for Android Store or Android Operation System.

The link you wrote is Xamarin, i know that.
Of course we need API reference of a certain operation system we wanna create apps for.

Great, thanks, now i am checking out is it for Android Store or Android Operation System.
I am checking out it because in the case with Windows it is not same as i wrote in my question.

"The Google Play Developer API allows you to perform a number of publishing and app-management tasks. "
It is not for creating apps, i mean API reference for creating apps for Android Store.
Version 2 is something different.
Do you understand?

We use a programming language and API to create apps, in this case we have Android SDK, but i am talking about creating app for Android Store, it is not same in the case with Windows.

As i said in the case of Windows, for example we can not use WPF to create apps for Windows Store.

I already saw it, one question: is it used to create apps?
Is it API used to create apps for Play Store?
I mean API reference to create apps to publish on Android Store.

But it shows:
"The Google Play Developer API is a REST-based web service that allows you to perform publishing and app-management tasks. You can use this API to integrate your publishing operations with your release-management process."

Do you understand? API reference to create apps like Java Reference or .Net Framework , but in this case for Play Store.

3. Maybe we should not even waste time discussing your questions. It might take forever...

I know what is Vector Graphics and i have vector based animation and bitmap images based animation.
I know there is a wrapper class for AVI file to create a video file in C#, but i should use only native .Net Framework.
I know all of that.

So, it is worth to help me, but i think you don't know more than what i said, because all what is need i already know, i came here because thought - may be there is a better way.

I posted a bitmap images based animation code.
It uses Timer Class, i will replace it to Thread Timer.

If you know a better way, let me know, if you don't, let me know and i mark my answer as solution.

Thank you for reading!

1. I already talked about it on this forum, making video files are not supported in .Net.
3. Ok, sorry, i just need a link to a page where i can learn how to make animation better than what i am doing now. And i know what is vector graphics and already have animations using vector graphics, but i thought you mean something else.

I already made animations and use them in my game, i am just curious if there is a better way. You said my way is bad, so you can send me a link where is a better way or just teach me.

I have no idea how to create animation without frames or recreating vector images, but i guess low level code can create a video file which is a better way, but as i said it is not supported in .Net, i need to use 3d party ways, but i don't want.

1. I can't create a video file because it is not supported in .Net 4.0, i don't want to use Pinvoke or 3d party libraries.
2. I remember using Threads, thanks.
3. Vector Graphics? What is this?
4. I use for loop to store bytes, bytes[0][x], bytes[1][x]...and so on.
For example, i increase alpha to make light effect animation.

So, can you give me a link to read about it?

I mean to make html/css/js app and run it on client side on Windows like C# WPF app.

Mistake, i mean on client side, to run on client side.

Yes, but hybrid on client side.

I think no, normal html.

Both for Windows desktop, yes, WPF runs only on Windows by anyway.
And HTML/CSS/Javascript is hybrid on client side.

I know, but as i said, we compare them.

I think you mean no issue for simple apps, but not for really complex apps.

> You can make a good use of these frameworks and engines..
I use .Net Framework.
I would choose C# WPF .Net Framework to make games, because it has higher performance than Javascript.

What i like in managed code like C# WPF is that:
Native C++ is high performance, but very hard.
Hybrid Javascript is easy and cross platform, but low performance.
Managed C# WPF .Net Framework is easy, high performance and going to be WORA - Write once, run anywhere like Java.

That is why i would like to choose managed C# WPF .Net Framework.

I wanna choose Javascript because it is cross platform, but i am not sure about its performance and that is why i am confused.
If i choose C# WPF, i am sure there is no performance issue.

The real question is Javascript vs C# WPF.
As i understand Javascript has no issue for simple games, but when it comes to more complex games it makes problems. It is also slower than C#.
So if i choose C# WPF i can be 100% sure there is no performance issue.
No, i am talking about pure HTML/CSS/JS and pure WPF, not engines.

Now i am confused and don't know what to choose.
Right now the only problem is performance.

I was thinking the whole day and got everything before i opened this page again and saw this post, thank you.
I thought i get access only to a part of the Framework, but not, i can use all of the namespaces, thank you, reference names and namespace names are different, i got it.
I just need to open .Net Framework Class Library, i always was ok with that, but a few days ago i got confused, started thinking wrong, but now everything is ok.
Sorry, i feel a shame, thanks!

I got everything, I just need to open .Net Framework Class Library!
I feel shape, sorry, Windows Forms includes all the namespaces of the framework, i used to think so, but then i got confused, i thought only a part of the framework, but all the Framework, ok, i got everything, sorry, thanks!

Sorry!
I just need to open .Net Framework Class Library!
I feel a shame, Windows Forms like WPF provides access to all the namespaces of .Net Framework, i used to think so, but then i got confused, but now i got everything, thank you!

Sorry! I feel a shame, Windows Forms like WPF provides access to all the namespaces of .Net Framework, i used to think so, but then i got confused, but now i got everything, thank you!

Sorry! Names of references are different from names of namespaces, sorry!
I feel a shame, i always used to think rightly, but then got confuzed, learning curve, thanks.

> You can use speech recognition is System.Windows.Forms, but do you want to include it?
I wanna know what i can include if i want to.
Windows Forms is based on .Net Framework.
I wanna know what parts of the Framework i can use in my Windows Forms project.
You gave me System.Windows.Forms.dll that scans System.Windows.Forms namespace. I said lots of times i am talking about technology, not namespace.

The time has come and i will post solution here!

I don't understand, i just wanna know names of references to add them, do you get it?
You said Windows Forms provides access to any of .Net Framework classes, but it is wrong, do you admit it?
I open a new Windows Forms project, i wanna add new references, but i don't know their names, there is that list?

You get me wrong, my question is so simple as to be stupid.

You wanna say that people don't know names of references they use and they add them by guessing?
The problem is in all of you, you are so smart that get my simple question as something serious.

Hi guys again, i made what you said about Assembly:
http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/861196/System-Windows-Forms-Dll-Assembly-Get-A-List-Of-Wh

Guys, i really ask a simple question, you get my question as something hard, but it is not, look:
I open new Windows Forms project in Visual Studio, then i add references like System.Drawing and so on.
But how can i know how to add a reference, if i don't know names of references.
I repeat, i use namespaces, add references and so on, and now i wanna add a reference to use it, how to add if i don't know a name of reference???
Until today i go to .Net Framework Class Library and copy reference names, but Windows Forms provides access only to a part of the whole Framework and it is not only about System.Windows.Forms namespace, it is also about, for examples, next ones:

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.ComponentModel;
using System.Data;
using System.Drawing;
using System.Drawing.Drawing2D;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;

And now i am a simple guy, i must know names of references, to write them and add, that is one the easiest questions.

I read what you write and understand you are really smart and wise people, but the problem that you are so professional that don't understand my simple question, because you get it as something very hard.

Yes, i went to "System.Windows.Media.Media3D Namespace".
I can not use it in my Windows Forms, there is no reference, i use .Net Framework 4.0.
There are different Class Libraries for SilverLight, WPF and so on, look:

Class Library (WPF)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms753307(v=vs.110).aspx

.NET Framework Class Library for Silverlight
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc838194(v=vs.95).aspx

Are you sure i can use any of functions provided by .Net Framework Class library? Because i can use lots of them, but not all.
I need such a class library for Windows Forms where i can see only what i can use.

Ok, now i wanna ask a very simple question:
Can i use anything from Framework, i mean all of the .Net Framework in my Windows Forms project?
I think no.

You don't understand, come on, please, understand my question, please.

I need a list of a set of API that Windows Forms uses by default.
You give me lots of information that i know, i don't need to learn what is difference between Windows Forms and WPF again, because i know that, sorry, but what the hell? I need a simple list, not all that lecture.

Go and read my question again, please understand.
If you don't know, let me know and i go to another forum to search.
How can i know what i can use in my Windows Forms application? What the hell? I wanna know what i can use in my application, i need a list of what i can use, ohhh... nobody understands, you are all confused people, please understand, thank you.

No, "System.Windows.Forms.dll" is about namespace, it is about windows interface elements, controls, button, picturebox and so on.

But i am talking about Windows Forms technology.
Look:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8bxxy49h(v=vs.110).aspx
"Windows Forms is a smart client technology for the .NET Framework"

If you want, you can understand that what you talk about and what i talk about are different things.

There is no one who knows answer to such a simple question.
Do you understand what i mean at all?

No, i can't understand.
Listen, i use Windows Forms to code.
I need a list of what it uses by default from .Net Framework.

What is wrong? Please explain me, what is wrong? Thanks.
Look:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8bxxy49h(v=vs.110).aspx
I am talking about Windows Forms technology, not namespace.

Wait, i can get information about any library in .Net Framework Class Library without loading assembly.
But i need a list of libraries used in Windows Forms.

So, there is no such a list, right?

You are talking about namespace or technology?
> What is "Windows Forms technology like WPF"?
I am not talking about namespace.
Windows Forms rivals WPF.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd30h2yb(v=vs.100).aspx

I started 2 years ago, thank you, i don't need that.
I appreciate your diligence, guys, but you can take a bit to understand my simple question.

I need a list of classes, methods, functions and so on, a part of API that Windows Forms uses.
I need a list of what Windows Forms uses.
Windows Forms uses a part of the whole .Net Framework, i need a list of that part.

No, i am talking about Windows Forms technology like WPF.
I am not talking about Windows.Forms namespace.
Their names are just accidently same.

I need a list of classes, functions, methods and so on, in other words what Windows Forms uses from .Net Framework, for example, from 4.0 version.

I am talking about Windows Forms technology like WPF, not Windows.Forms namespace.
My question is much more simpler, very very simpler, i know all of that, i don't need you to teach me what is Windows Forms and so on, because i already know that.
I am not talking about Platform Invoke, i mean those classes, functions, methods and so on, by simple words what Windows Forms use, not by Platform Invoke, not 3d party components, what does it use from .Net Framework, for example 4.0 version.

I just need to get a list of methods, functions and so on used in C# Windows Forms.
I repeat, i need a list of part of the whole API used in C# Windows Forms.
I repeat, as you said Windows Forms does not use everything in the Framework, i need to get a list of those that it uses.

I have no idea how to explain my simple question, but it is a learning curve.
Thank you!

Ok, i went to read and got it, thank you!

I am talking about markup, HTML, not Javascript, is markup (Html) faster or slower than managed code (Java)?

Ok, sorry, thanks.

No, i know native code is faster than markup hybrid code, for example C++ is faster than HTML, but my question is: Managed code vs markup hybrid code, for example, Java vs HTML, what is faster?

I got all the answers i needed for (Solution 1).
Thanks.