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I work in the financial sector [you know, that bit which looses everybody else's shirts] and there is no way we could ever run our systems in the cloud.
Customers need fast and reliable lines of communication. I can not see the cloud [cuckoo land] providing dedicated and secure leased lines. Where will the physically be?
In some markets, the hardware running the software must be located within the legal jurisdictional of the regulatory body. I can see that one working.
A key selling point [for us] is the length of line. The closer we can get a server to the exchange, the quicker an algo can trade. Distance to the London Stock Exchange's servers from Ulan Bator compared to the next door building.
Our customers pay service providers for every connection to access them. Ignoring leased lines, how would we be able to quantify this?
I'll stick to my own data-centres thank you very much.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: I work in the financial sector
Now I understand the "need" for a £1000 suit. 
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No fair. I pay £400 for the £1,00 suit and the need for the good suits is that Mrs Wife likes me looking good.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Apart from legislation changes (very frequent in my sector) why would you spend time and money writing something that isn't wanted by a custom or a potential customer - I am not talking about scrapping innovation, but writing any app for the sake of it is just plain daft.
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I have less than 3 yrs experience in the industry and cloud seems to be *the* technical buzzword....heck, even the managers talk about that.
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Really depends on the industry... another popular buzzword seems to be SOA (service oriented architecture). Look it up and look smart when they ask...
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This being the ONLY valid reason IMHO.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Remember back in the Bad Old Days(TM)?
When computers were hulking great boxes in sealed, humidity controlled and air-conditioned rooms, ruled by the BOFH?
When your data was at his mercy, and if you had any problems, your chances of getting it sorted on a Friday rested purely on when you had last bought him a shed load of beer? and when you were likely to do it again?
Remember when the PC came out, and we all moved to a distributed model? With each user having a local (fast) processor, and a local (fast) HDD? And we then centralised important data, within the company so we could control access, and backups, and disaster recovery?
Now along comes the cloud: Monolithic remote processing and storage, outside your company, run by the BOFH's kids. In probably a third world country (to make it cheaper) and with a grandiose Mission Statement that means diddly-squat. Hand over your data and applications to a company that you have never heard of, that was selected for it's extreme cheapness by the accounts department. Now what do you do when it fails? How sure are you that it was backed up well? Who has access to your data? How trustworthy are they? What are the chance they will disappear completely next week?
To heck with the cloud.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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I'm definititely a founding member of the BOD(TM) Club. Maybe it's just Old Farts (by definition, members of BOD(TM)C) who don't trust the Cloud. And I'm known as the Eternal Optimist!
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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The cloud has definitely proven itself not trustworthy (well, more like the users lurking in the cloud). Just see the list of companies that have been hacked into the past 5 years.
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Two words: "Justin" "Bieber"
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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"What could go wrong?"
That is on my list of "Questions never to ask because they always end up getting answered."
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The potential of having one's data held hostage is rather unappealing.
The "- but" part:
On the other hand, the cloud-vendors would make absolutely great targets for denial-of-service attacks.
I guess that's the cloud-app development I'll target.
(Optimistic cynicism has its perks)
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Making programs that move machinery, it is not interesting to use the cloud so both the last two answers fit me perfectly.
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Several of the arguments mentioned are good, valid reasons to deploy your app to the cloud. Why do I have to pick only 1?
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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" What is CLOUD?!! I still don't get the IDEA of CLOUD?!! "
Well the answer is: Those white fluffy things that float in the sky. If they get dark it's an indication that it's going to be inclement weather.
Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
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I especially like the metaphor of a dark cloud as an indication of inclement weather.
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I am creating custom software for many customers.
I don't think it would make any sense to have every application in the cloud if it should simply be run from the desktop.
As soon as our customers need something that would make sense in a cloud environment I will move to the cloud, given that it makes life easier for us and our customers.
That is... Probably never, but then again... Clouded, the future is!
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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I had a discussion the the MS rep in Singapore who was responsible for selling the "cloud" and the target audience was SMEs and small shops who could benefit from the flexibility. He was no interested in the big end of town as their requirements were too stringent.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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The last option is a bit pointless in my opinion. Unless industry regulations prohibits the customers app to be in the cloud, and the cusomer demands it,then so be it and I would develop for the cloud.
I need to make an income after all.
Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
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True, but that means that you do have an interest in moving to the cloud(your customers).
All the best,
Dan
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You'r right. I voted for Cusstomer demand
Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
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All 3 apply to us, I can't see financial instutions moving their systems outside their firewall, but then I've been drmatically wrong in the past.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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