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dandy72 wrote: What could possibly go wrong, if instead of MS, it was some rag-tag startup that (you know) would try to cut corners at every opportunity?
As opposed to cutting corners based on financial risk analysis?
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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k5054 wrote: As opposed to cutting corners based on financial risk analysis?
Including financial liability? I'd rather go with the company that has the deepest pockets. The small fish can just declare bankruptcy and disappear.
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Quote: A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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I doubt it makes any difference to the corpses whether they died because of cost cutting or because of corner cutting. 
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They probably died of exposure (to extreme heat, pressure and radiation levels)
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Everyone! Run!
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Hi All,
Not really being a big laptop person, I am seeing with my work Lappy the battery is good for around 10 minutes from a full charge it drops extremely fast, I am talking 93% to 15% in the space of 10 minutes while not being used! (Outlook open, Teams open, Chrome & possibly Edge open) the thing is you need to plug it in to get any useful work done, I have got on to our IT dept about it ('Well run BatteryReport and get back to us'). Battery report shows the battery falls off a cliff. So are 'modern' laptops really bad at power management or does the OS (11 ver?) run really badly from a power point of view. Back in the day Laptops would last and last (I remember the first laptop I dealt with an Amstrad PPC512 used it on site for four day didn't need to charge it!)
rant over
Glenn
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It sounds like your laptop/battery is a toast... Can't come up with any usage scenario that will drain a battery like that...
I can go two days without charge on mine... and I have a lot of applications open beyond your list...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Your battery is toast. All laptops I’ve seen recently run at least 2-3 hours of serious work. Mine runs a good 4 hours with mix of VisualStudio, VMware, browsing, OneDrive sync, etc.
Mircea
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Mine runs for 20 minutes off a brand new 100Wh battery, while gaming.
It's an I9/4090m
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honey the codewitch wrote: while gaming
... you see? There's your problem! 
Surely you can use your lappy for ironing or space heating
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: use your lappy for ironing or space heating
Space heating definitely. My i9 is so warm I'm surprised my cat doesn't sleep on it. Ironing not so much - today's laptops are simply too light to make a good iron (or boat anchor). 
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In addition to what others have said, my last laptop battery ballooned up. If you let it go too long it can hurt internal components in the laptop - even possibly puncturing itself and potentially exploding, or at least causing a lot of smoke and excitement. Worth it to get it replaced.
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<<evil_beavis&butthead voice="">>Quote: even possibly puncturing itself and potentially exploding, or at least causing a lot of smoke and excitement
Cool, Huh, Huh, Cool<<evil_beavis&butthead voice="">>, I have made the request officially for a new laptop, which means after much prodding I might get a replacement battery!
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Lithium batteries don't last forever: and how you charge them makes a big difference. If you habitually leave them charging to "full" that can drastically shorten their life - charge to only 85% of capacity and they last a lot longer! (My phone has a optional software cutoff at 85% to do just that for me.)
Have a look here: BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University[^] and get a new battery!
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My Lenovo laptop has similar functionality... I stop charging at 80% and restart at 15%...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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I don't want a laptop I want a desk top, more power to upgrade for specific roles extra serial ports etc. parallel port even graphics card updates. The main thing it plugs into the wall. I think since Covid everyone has been about the mobile work space. It is now seen as hip and trendy, but my desk disappears under wires connecting everything. Worst thing was I got this Lappy after three people had had it so I really had no chance of battery extending yoga.
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When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout.
The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.
Hogan
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So the CTO really meant because it would be too 'heavy'? Rather than perhaps bulky? Or some idea about weirdness with airports?
If so how odd.
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yep, he was serious.
Hogan
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Before covid everyone wanted a laptop so they could 'work from home' and management wanted people in the office (so they could ensure they were working). Covid meant people had to work from home (and did work) now you have to make a case for not having a lappy. I remember my Covid employer saying 'no laptops with out a reason, no VPNs' Covid have a Laptop we don't have a VPN... I ended up using my home PC to remote into my desktop PC at work (VPNs no we don't need them, oh we have been hacked but...).
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I have a large lenovo laptop with an i9. I bought it because I needed a secondary portable desktop. I'd never use the thing for work while traveling. It's too bulky, and the battery life stinks.
I'd probably gone for a Thinkpad slim of some sort. Lighter, smaller, better battery life.
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I've been a road warrior for many years and that argument carries a lot of weight with me. Pun accidental.
Mircea
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That's because he was worried that the slightest IT person would injure themselves. It's all about exposure. If they go with the lightest devices, no one can hold them accountable for staff having to carry all that weight and injure themselves.
IMHO, the best way to get around that would be to have three different models on the catalogue and let staff pick the one that suits them best. Then they choose. They make the choice around what they are comfortable enough to carry.
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