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I'm not sure what I missed, context would be nice. Just the same, a moment of silence for Paul.

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Same... I'm not sure which Paul we're referring to. Confused | :confused:

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I never knew his real name was Paul. That's so sad. Hope he's doing well.

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I went to church yesterday, as a non believer, to pray for her. It doesn't help at all, but I could not think of anything else.

One angel less on this earth.

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So The Verge has an article[^] right now from the Google trial that's currently underway. They included a sample of "the most lucrative search queries" for a given week. They (well, Google) claim that, based on the sample week for September 22nd 2018, the top queries ordered by revenue consisted of:

iphone 8
iphone 8 plus
auto insurance
car insurance
cheap flights
car insurance quotes
direct tv
online colleges
at&t
hulu
iphone
uber
spectrum
comcast
xfinity
insurance quotes
free credit report
cheap car insurance
aarp
lifelock

If that's the case, man, I guess I just never learned how you're supposed to use Google, and they must hate my guts. For the most part, these can all be categorized as "things people search for because they're buying something".

Honestly, I never use Google for those types of things. My searches are way more arcane. I'll google for some factual tidbit someone mentioned that I want to know more about - generally the answer will lead me to Wikipedia types of sites. I'll google for the documentation or sample usage for some obscure API I'm trying to use. Generally, I'll end up at learn.microsoft.com/[some SDK page], or here on CP, or StackOverflow. Again, little chance for anyone to monetize anything.

I understand how the article's list makes sense, in that these are the "most lucrative" queries. Mine aren't. All these years, I can't think of many queries I might've submitted to Google that might be candidates for that list. I guess I just never search for "consumer stuff".

Just to be topical, if I was looking for the best price for snow tires, I'd bring up the sites for local stores that I know sell tires, and do the search on there, because I'm not gonna buy snow tires from a store from another continent, even if they have the best price in the entire world. And even if I search Google to find a store's site (because it happens to be less straightforward than [storename].com or .ca), Google still has no idea what it is I'm going on that site to search for. Sure, Google searches can be geo-located, so it might only return results from "local" stores, but my ISP is in another city altogether, so as far as Google knows, those "local" stores it's giving me results for are hundreds of kilometers away.

What do you say, do you use Google "as a consumer", in a way that makes them money because of an eventual purchase, or do you stick to "things that don't have a price tag associated with them"? I get the impression if I was the typical Google user, it never would've gotten off the ground...

I mostly look for correct spellings, meanings, or synonyms.

my most recent bing search history ...
translate saara saty bheetar rahata hai
Viktoria Miskunaite
how to obtain my search history
GT3-HD atohm review
T66 Tower Speaker with Powered Bass
Triton Seven
GOLDENEAR
ATOHM SUBWOOFER
GT-SW2-HD - ATOHM
Wharfedale Evo4.2 speakers
NHT C3
is record output same as pre out
Jadis Speakers
rel t/5x
do the english have bad teeth
Formate
food lion cream cheese
sprouts organic pbyay
gene tierney
western movies 2022
marlin brando
western movies list
John Luther Adams’s “Drums of Winter”
spendor a7
haldi powder
karela
samsung ssd 980 1Tb blue led
iodine sources
actresses from the 40s

i often search for best products exempli gratia ...
coffee
sub-base woofer
audio speaker cable
Maple Syrup
cockroach repellent
audiophile power cord

also ...
C++ tree visualization software
C++ how to obtain pointer to class method

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What surprises me is that pr0n is not on the list. Have people really stopped searching for it?

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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
Have people really stopped searching for it?

Undoubtedly not, but I guess it's just not as profitable. For Google, that is, not the pr0n sites (I'm sure).

Or maybe Google sanitized that list they presented in court. I noticed they picked September, which I believe is traditionally when Apple presents their latest lineup. Not surprising there's so many searches for their phones for that time period as a result. Surely they were very selective about what to bring up, and it's not entirely representative of reality...

Generally speaking, I think people find their site of choice and just go to it without searching for it in google. Kind of like how you don't google facebook, yahoo, or any other sites that you can remember or have saved as a favorite.

It is what it says. 'most profitable' not most common

I generally search for Indian philosophical terms in my languages, Kannada and Sanskrit.

For example, this Kannada term ಅನನ್ಯಾರ್ಹಶೇಷತ್ವ (too tough for an English translation) fetches only three search results.
This Sanskrit term from a popular saying - आरम्भगुर्वी ... - fetches a little more than a pageful of results.

Very little probability of revenue to Google, from these searches.

I wonder it that list is based off of people typing at google or it it comes from, or is combined with google analytics.
I'm like you, in that if I search for something to buy, it is either directly on Amazon or like tires, I'll search for tire stores.

But what if those tire stores are using google analytics? Wouldn't that skew the numbers? Besides I doubt that is the real list, just the list most likely to help google.

P.S. Full disclaimer: I use DuckDuckGo.
P.P.S. I would imagine that Pr0n is the most lucrative, but since it isn't listed, I doubt the validity of the list.

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dandy72 wrote:
I get the impression if I was the typical Google user, it never would've gotten off the ground..

To be fair google did not make money for a long time. Investors knew that it could - it just took a while.

I suspect there were several initial attempts but 'adwords' was how it really started rolling.

Keeping in mind of course now and then that they were not making money on what you looked at but rather on whether they could get you to click on a link that went somewhere that had paid for that click.

I think now (and for a while) they also do inserts into site pages. So it might be that you went directly to one tire store but then clicked on something on that page that generated some small revenue for google. And if not you then other people do.

jschell wrote:
So it might be that you went directly to one tire store but then clicked on something on that page that generated some small revenue for google

Unless it's entirely done server-side (and admittedly it's likely to work that way), then that's somewhat doubtful, as I use Pi-Hole, which does a decent job block anything injected into a site by third-party ad company.

Remember that Google sells the right to associate your ads with specific search terms. Thus, the terms listed may not have been searched that often, just that advertisers paid the most to be associated with those terms. Of course, there had to be enough people searching for those terms to get the click count up, but there might have been only a little correlation.

Those are ad keywords stuffed into ad links. So that is what people click, accidentally click or are forced to click while playing games or reading articles. It doesn’t represent actual interest, just what Google has money titled to.

I don't use Google at all, I use DuckDuckGo, but I use it pretty much the same as you.

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A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
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Remember that there are many millions of people that use Google (or any search engine) in their day to day lives, and your usage pattern is very skewed as evidenced by you being a member of CP.

I sometimes search for things like local companies that provide a specific service: 2 days ago I searched for ‘fire extinguisher inspection recharge’ because our HOA requires proof of operational extinguishers. However, I use Duck Duck Go. I may use Google if necessary, but that hasn’t happened in years.

The point is that there are many, many people going about their lives who need info about something. These people are probably not as tech-savvy as you - nor would Google know whether they navigated to a supplier’s site to refine their search (well, perhaps they would).

So, what’s the point of my reply? You got me. I don’t know either. Smile | :)

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Mark Starr wrote:
your usage pattern is very skewed as evidenced by you being a member of CP.

I think ultimately that's what I wanted to confirm. Google has been designed with consumers in mind. The way I use it (and others doing the same), I'm probably not very valuable to them.

And that suits me just fine. Smile | :)

I don't use google search but I have not searched for any of the items on that list. I usually search for how to disable/enable Windows features (like Copilot), game and product reviews and lots of Youtube DIY videos. Most of the articles I read are from forums I frequent.

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