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You're pretty much confirming most horror stories being written about the field. It's no wonder vehicles are getting hacked, and hacked remotely. I'm just waiting for it to happen for seriously nefarious purposes.
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I work on products in the Medical Imaging field, regulated by the FDA. The processes set up to ensure correct development procedures, product quality, responsibility for failures and so on is often painful to software developers, but it comforts me to know, that these processes are in place.
It would sure make me feel better if Automotive Software was under the same level of scrutiny as Medical Devices.
I am SoMad
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Yet there's no shortage of stories about how insecure medical devices are.
I'm not making the claim that stories about hacking medical devices are constantly hitting the mainstream. Just sayin' that the few who bother are saying they're ridiculously easy to hack.
Some use the ban of wireless devices in hospitals as proof - if devices were secure, there wouldn't be a need to impose any outright ban of otherwise innocuous devices.
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I am not here to defend the industry and I don't want to get drawn into a debate, but I was not talking about hacking devices specifically. Sure, securing devices against intrusion is part of it and there is more and more focus on that, but it takes time before that really takes effect across the board.
I am SoMad
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upvote for "salesweasel" 
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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My dad spent his entire adult life working at the same dealer as a mechanic. The sales people are the ones making dealers look bad.
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dandy72 wrote: I've always believed that car guys shouldn't be writing software, any more than software guys should be making cars. What I'm seeing does nothing to change my perception.
That applys for many other things.
And even in Software branches, different departments could be included to that too.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Almost two weeks ago, my uncle died on a plane flight home to Tenerife.
He still had a home in the Netherlands and he was visiting family.
Today was his cremation.
Apparently, he died of double pneumonia, not something that should kill you unless you ignore it and get on a plane.
His sister, my aunt, said he looked awful and he should see a doctor, apparently my uncle, his brother, said the same.
He didn't feel so good either so he had a call with his wife who said he should stay here, see a doctor and she'd come over to the Netherlands.
Of course, he didn't want to see a doctor, but he agreed with his wife he'd see one in Tenerife.
He never made it to that doctor, although his body technically still made it to Tenerife.
I'm from a pretty stubborn family (both sides), but sometimes it's good to be a little less stubborn, especially when it comes to your health.
Be stubborn about your code (always use braces), about your frameworks and languages (C# .NET Core with EF Core), about your methodologies (Scrum, DevOps), but not about your health.
The former are just wrong if you do anything else I just said, the latter might literally kill you 
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It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I'm sorry for your loss. 
Just to add to what you're saying: without your health, you have nothing. Make your health priority #1.
Jon Sagara
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Thanks, but I wasn't close with him.
I think I saw him once every few years on average.
It felt a bit awkward sitting at the front at the cremation because I'm family, while his closest friends who were obviously more upset than me had to sit in the back 
My cleaning lady has some "wisdom" on her WhatsApp image.
Freely translated: When you're healthy you have a thousand wishes, when you're sick you only have one.
I guess that's true.
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Sorry for your lose!
I'm also one of those stubborn types.
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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Just be careful about your health!
If your body tells you something is wrong don't ignore it.
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Been peeing blood for 2 months and waiting on VA to schedule testing.
Sometimes you can't control things!
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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Wow, 2 months seems an awful long time to be waiting for something like that. I've had lots of kidney stones but none caused those symptoms for that long. Best of luck with that.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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That's how the VA does things, if they wait to treat you die and that's just one less to deal with.
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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Nothing says thanks to our vets like 'hurry up and die", that's so f**ked up.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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The rich send the poor to war.
They hold the purse strings so getting them to take care of us that do go is not the best care.
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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I started losing my hearing on an Aircraft carrier flight deck during Viet Nam. Also our shop was below the #1 catapult.
Tinnitus has gotten so bad now, I really am going deaf.
One branch of the VA turned me down because my "Household Income" is too high. (Being a Viet Nam Veteran is an exception to that rule.)
The Hospital has scheduled an appointment on December 26th. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
The democrats should worry more about taking care of the veterans that served than the illegal aliens..
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I've had Tinnitus since 68, at times it's so bad I can't hear much but it rings all the time.
There is no cure but hope you can get disability! Good luck!
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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amen !
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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Old buggers (men and women) tend to be stubborn AF.
My parents were in Italy last year, dad did not feel well, even before their vacations, never told my mum; he ended up in hospital with heart attack and a new pacemaker.
He's feeling a lot better now that his heart has been stabilized.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Good thing it ended like it did!
Stubbornness does get worse with age 
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I ended up in the hospital for 3 days with pneumonia before thanksgiving. All I knew was that I felt terrible. Didn’t have a cough or congestion - just felt like crap. After a week and a half, I finally went to the ER. To say I was surprised at the diagnosis is an understatement.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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