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To tell you the truth, the best programmers I've known passed the 50 mark. Almost all of the 30ish nerds - as I am - I know couldn't program their way out of a "hello world".
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I don't think that's an age-related or "generational" thing, I think it's a reflection of the public perception of development.
When us "old 'uns" got started, it was very much a niche career, with no real application to the "real world". Now phones, tablets, IoT cr@p is everywhere so the public sees coding as viable and real world - so you get a huge influx of people thinking that because they can fly an iPhone they can code an app, and Google / SO / even CP promotes that by providing "building blocks" that they assume can just be "glued together" to produce anything you want: easy money.
You know, I know, we all know better - building blocks are handy, but they need to be understood to be used, ror you end up with this: Stack Overflow Patchwork | CommitStrip[^]
And that's ignoring the much improved tools they have to play with: we didn't have IDE's, debuggers, just the original Google: Memory Lane[^]. And the speed of compilation! My word, but it's better these days! We had 24 hour turn rounds for a card deck, so you had to be damn sure it was right...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Rage wrote: It is quite funny, because my relatives in their late 50s are completely computer-illiterate, so I always have troubles to imagine that they are indeed very good programmers that are not 30ish nerds anymore.
Not hard for me to imagine at all--I'm working with two guys now in their 60s, and frankly that's the best thing that's happened in my career as a software developer. And in this field, I'm no spring chicken myself.
"Humbling" is the word that comes to mind.
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Don't feel old.
You are about 20 years older than my grandpa which is very fit, by the way. 
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Happy birthday 
"I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle
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Hey Griff, happy birthday!
Old age is not that bad: ^ Statler and Waldorf
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OriginalGriff wrote: Yes, it's my birthday tomorrow.
And, while you're waiting . . . [^]
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Well, sort of. Officially, my 32 hour work week starts next week, but I took today off in advance
Going to do some work for my own business, Juun Software, today.
I'm well on my way for my first customer, a startup who needs some software for their business.
Nice job, no hurry, a couple of nice challenges, and I decide the technologies to use (C# ASP.NET Core, EF Core, Vue.js, SQL Server, hosting on Azure).
Next week I'll be sending out my first invoices with my very own Juun Software logo, which is pretty cool as well
I'm thinking about making a basic website, but I can't really handle more work, so what's the point (except the fun)? 
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Nice! Grats 
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Part time is a blessing. 
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He is part-timing because running his own business aside, so I am not sure this qualifies as part-time but as .. .double time eventually.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Going to do some work for my own business
You will learn when you have you're own business that there actually is no such thing as "part time" anymore. Yes your other job will be part time, your business will be everything left over.
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I already learned that a while ago.
I've been working in my own time for years now, it just got "official", is all 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Going to do some work for my own business
You eventually heard us, to go and mind your own business. 
Congrats and ... good luck !
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Yeah, I always take things literally.
I know theft is a crime, I just can't help myself 
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Best of luck. Why did you choose Friday?
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Dull day at work, long weekend, worst traffic because rush hour starts a little early (just like I do)...
Wednesday and Friday were the best days for my employer because we have weekly meetings on all the other days.
Also, Friday is pretty good because we have no holidays on Friday, but plenty on Monday and I believe on or two on Tuesday and Thursday
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Sander Rossel wrote: Wednesday and Friday were the best days for my employer because we have weekly meetings on all the other days.
Sounds like it would be those days that would be best to do something else!
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The amount of meetings is insane 
From the top of my head, two on Monday, one on Tuesday and one on Thursday, then there's a three-weekly sprint review and retrospective, a daily 15 to 30 minute team stand-up (ugh, keep it 5!), a six-weekly .NET team meeting... And those are only the "standard" meetings, some people there do nothing but meetings!
Semi-government, 'nuff said
It's not all bad though, sometimes we have pie
I've seen worse. Not more meetings, but the meetings were more disruptive for the "work flow", so bad even that customers called and asked for person x "if they're not in some meeting again..."
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So are you working T&M or fixed price?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Not sure what T&M means, but it's not fixed.
I get paid by the hour
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SPAM. Oh wait, never mind, you're a well-liked user on CP so it's OK.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Sander Rossel wrote: piece of custom software craftsmanship? Special price just for you!
OK, now you've gone too far.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Sander Rossel wrote: a fine piece of custom software craftsmanship?
So the '1's are properly aged, and distributed in a fractal tree arrangement?
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