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If we all block all ads then who is going to pay for the internet services that we all expect for free?
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If you're a business and your only source of revenue is advertisements then you're business plan is horrible and your business is more likely to fail. There is a reason that successful businesses do not rely on one source of income.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Agreed, but that is a totally different issue.
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I know. When you're starting off, ads may be your only source of revenue. If websites didn't take such a lazy approach to ad curation, e.g. Google AdSense, and strategically place ads relevant to their audience, I would assume that Ad-Blocking wouldn't really be a thing. One of the things that really pushed me over to the block-by-default crowd started with weather websites that put an ad before every video, which for fluff pieces is acceptable, but when your searching for time-critical updates on a tornado encroaching on your area, a minute long advert on the latest pill or drug is very irritating (and possibly life-threatening).
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote: If you're a business and your only source of revenue is advertisements
Well, there was this one company, named google. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Google isn't in the advertising business, they are in the real-estate business. It just happens that the real-estate they sell is space on a very popular web-page. They do not make the ads, they sell the spot they go on which is much more lucrative.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote: Google isn't in the advertising business,
Foothill wrote: They do not make the ads, they sell the spot they go on which is much more lucrative.
Exactly!
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'd unblock ads, if we could guarantee that they were all static images, with no flashing or annoying animation, and no scripts. No video or audio; no popups/popunders; no redirecting to malware or tech-support scams; no cryptocurrency mining; no tracking my every move across the Internet.
Unfortunately, I suspect the horse has already bolted. There have been too many cases of even the best behaved ad networks being compromised and tricked into showing malvertising. No matter what promises they make, I'm unlikely to ever trust them enough to turn the ads back on.
Something like Brave[^] seems like a promising alternative.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I just wish the sites wouldn't show me ads for the stuff I have just elephanting bought! Yes, I was interested in those neat little fold up glasses, but I bought 4 pairs and I think I don't need to see adverts for them any more!
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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If you can see those ads you do not need them glasses!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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And no pictures of people or animals.
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I go further than just blocking ads. I use an Ad-Blocker, Ghostery, No-Script (on Firefox), with an HTML5 Auto-Play Disabler. When it comes to websites with an Ad-Blocker wall, if I really want to see, I use a small program that I wrote to perform an HTTP GET request and displays it's pure text return. More often then not, the content I want is in the response buried along with a thousand lines of anti-ad-blocking javascript.
If this advertiser<>ad-blocker war continues to escalate, I might consider writing a very light weight web browser of my own that parses out everything but text content with the option of downloading images with a click.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I wonder if this[^] still works in Windows 10? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I wish that the HTML document specification remained simple enough to display web pages in a console. Alas, that is not the case. It seems like everything, including the kitchen sink, has been thrown into web pages.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote: everything, including the kitchen sink, has been thrown into web pages.
Well, we needed somewhere to wash up status code 418[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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With the IoT, I wouldn't be surprised if we see an extension to that joke such as:
419 I'm a refrigerator
432 I'm a light-bulb
455 I'm a vacuum cleaner
etc....
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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MikeD 2 wrote: My reaction generally is to leave and not bother with the info so it feels like shooting themselves in the foot
Let's consider the alternative.
So you give in and accept the ads to view the site. OK - now you've set a precedent. If that worked, next it will be "you must accept doubleclick cookies to view this site".
I even block pixel graphics - really everything - and have an extremely small list of exceptions (like two) for certain special circumstances - although it's not ads but popups.
Just this past weekend I was on the phone to "Goldman-Sacks" because there new website, "Marcus" insists I accept third party cookies and has other privacy violations. They pretended to be interested. I just noted that I didn't open an account their to begin with: they bought out a different online bank, and, although not skillions of dollars, I'll move my money long before I drop my privacy - and asked "how the hell" can a financial institution "upgrade" it's website so as to compromise my privacy ? I doubt they'll get back to me.
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MikeD 2 wrote: Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
No, totally disagree, in a "would go to war to stop it from happening"-way. Companies being able to arbitrarily force people to do what they want is some ridiculous dystopian scenario that completely dehumanizes people into livestock. Anyone who feels like a person instead of an animal should vehemently oppose this.
Hiding content behind an adblock detector is fair game though, naturally I can't force them to do anything either. I generally leave those sites though.
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I read the first paragraph and clicked on the upvote. I read the second and clicked on the upvote. The system will count only one but consider mine double.
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I block pop-ups in Edge plus I use a hosts file. That is plenty good for me.
I don't feel obligated to subject myself to on-line ads. When I buy a newspaper I don't read the ads. Same basic principle applies to online ads.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Same basic principle applies to online ads.
True. But you can't buy the newspaper without the ads. You choose to not look at them. You don't actually block them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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So would you be OK with an ad-blocking solution that downloaded the ads, but didn't run the code or display them?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I wouldn't use it. But I'm OK with you doing whatever you want.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You could have someone else cut out pieces of blank paper and paste them over the ads.
If the medium is digital you might as well automate that task..
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