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Story - The First Part
My wifes, very old Celeron-based laptop became completely unusable a couple of days ago due to a Windows 10 Update. The laptop worked fairly well since I had installed an SSD. But after the recent update there were Microsoft processes using up 100% of CPU for days.

Story - The Second Part
Yesterday I decided to buy her a new laptop. Found this one at Office Depot ($329)
HP 15 bs051od Laptop 15.6 Screen Intel Core i3 4GB Memory 1TB Hard Drive Windows 10 1TJ84UAABA by Office Depot & OfficeMax[^]

HDD /Win10 Woes
Processor much better i3 quadcore, but still the laptop was a bit slow and I recognized that the HDD was at 100%. Yes, brand new and already slow Cry | :((
Well, I knew it was a cheapy. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Replace HDD with Old SSD
I took the old 120GB SSD (far smaller) out of the celeron-based computer, cloned the new image onto it.
Took the new laptop apart. (Quite tricky with 4 screws under the rubber footpads.)
Replaced 1TB HDD with 120GB SSD. It still had 73GB free which is fine for my wife.

Put laptop back together and fired it up. Success!

Yes, Another Problem
However, the upon start up -- I've restarted numerous times -- I get:
a completely black screen with only an arrow cursor for about 5 minutes.
Here's a snapshot I took:
win10 - black background, arrow cursor[^]

Once the machine gets a desktop, it is really fast now.Thumbs Up | :thumbsup: Everything works great once the desktop shows up for work.
Multiple Restarts
However, I've restarted 5 or 6 times and every time it takes about 5 minutes to get past the black background with arrow cursor.
It is scary as you wait for it to start.

Has anyone seen this behavior? Any clues about why it happens? Unsure | :~

EDIT
I was googling about and just found this:
Solved: Black screen with cursor for 5 minutes before desktop appear... - HP Support Forum - 6317335[^]

Possibly this is the HP utilities that are autoinstalled. I uninstalled tons of stuff but not all of the HP stuff. Ugh! Maybe that will help. I will try and report back when I can.
Here's a quote about a possible solution:
HP forum said
Chatted with HP support about the same issue. Turned out to be a windows issue. Use search to open msconfig and go to the services tab and disable App Readiness


EDIT 2
More googling about led me to this:
Windows 10 Black Screen with Cursor [SOLVED] - Driver Easy[^]
This problem can be prevalent and caused by numerous issues.

Final Edit SOLUTION
Closing the loop on this one.
Last night I got home and the first thing I tried was installing the latest video drivers.
Even though the laptop was brand new there were newer video drivers so I installed them.
I rebooted and it took more than 5 minutes to show the desktop when I logged in.
Next, I opened up msconfig, found that App Readiness (service) and turned it off.
Rebooted and logged in and this time the desktop showed up immediately.
Success!!
The crap that you have to deal with is almost entirely ridiculous.
Computers still aren't really consumer products are they? Hmmm | :|
I honestly pity the unaware user who buys a new laptop and this kind of crap happens to. Sigh | :sigh:

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