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Priya_Sundar wrote: So being a software developer is just what people can easily get into due to the large number of accesible oppourtunities in the field.
Ah.... So that's why there is so much dross out there. The market demands more software developers, so the universities supply it, but unless they expand properly the only way to supply software developers is to pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap (Total lack of quality).
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: to pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap
A huge bulk produce normally brings with it significant scrap objects too.
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^ that is very strange.
needless to say, you should be proud of what you do. if you are programmer, then I hope you are proud of that. If you are not, then I suggest you go find a new hobby/profession to satisfy your wants and needs.
Technology is just as important as any other job sector. Medical profession for instance, Without technology you would be getting surgery in a cave; using a sharp stone and some guy standing next to you saying "yup I think his heart is still beating".
Technology is what changes the future for the better, and most technologies going forward include some level of computer hardware / software.
so in short programmers mean a lot to the future and that is why I'm proud of what I do.
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Good point, and there is a certain nobility to the progress of technology..
But how many of us are actually pushing the bleeding edge of anything?
I'm proud of myself as a person, no matter what I'm doing. I'm not proud of being a programmer... I'm proud of doing a good job, and the job I do is being a programmer. I used to build violins for a living, and I was proud of doing a good job at that. I also used to be a cook, waitor, dish washer, cut grass in my neighborhood for $$s, fell trees and split wood, do over-the-phone tech-support, and teach English in another country.
I have been proud of doing a good job in all of those fields... Not because any of those pursuits were any more or less noble/useful/difficult than the others... But because I entered a contract with my employer to deliver a service, and I kept up my end of the deal. I gave them what they expected, and when possible exceeded thier expectations and needs. That means I kept my word, and that I'm a trustworthy worker.
Also, almost every employable job out there start because of a problem.. Someone has a problem and needs someone to provide a service that solves that problem. I like to solve problems and make people feel satisfied, and less worried... regardless of the specific context.
That's what's important to me, and that's what I'm proud of...
With regards to the context, that's where your own personal opinions, sense of right/wrong, and sense of integrity comes into play.. If you think that the problem is not a good problem to solve (like oh, the problem of how to make a hydrogen bomb), then don't agree to help solve the problem.
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One must differentiate between being proud of what one does and being proud of what one is.
Rgds PhilD
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Oh this proudness question can be interpreted in a couple of ways.
I'm not proud at all. I haven't been learning all this to flaunt and show people my huge virtual dong. I'm doing this because I love it... yes, I'd say I'm a passionate programmer. Just because I don't feel like "proud" doesn't mean I would trade it for any other thing... I'd never ever even think about it
/me flounders around in a tub of bytes.
Though if I finish a project and review it, remembering how much I've been thinking about some problems to solve in elegant and nifty ways, I feel a little proud about that piece of software and myself - still not flaunting around. Though I'm dressing attractive, I don't like publicity much anyways.
Cheers!
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qumer101 wrote: Asslam o Alaikum Hamed
Assalam o Alaikom qumer101 (If anyone reading this is not an Arab this word is equal to hello)
I'm not an Arab, but I understand what you say, Thanks.
qumer101 wrote: being a programmer there is nothing to be proud
But I didn't mean that exactly. Having a science in itself is NOT something to be proud of. What I mean is that to me there are bigger goals that I shall do them, and if I can, I will be proud of myself. Programming might be a need sometimes but not the only reason.
For example I mean if I'm a programmer and start coding a virus that offends people I'll be ashamed of myself not proud. I can't be proud of myself, even if I'm a successful programmer:
"Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value." Albert Einstein
-- modified at 8:41 Friday 30th November, 2007
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I'm_alive) { cout<<"I love programming."; }
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hi dear hamed
When your name and family name is arabic you are Arab.
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Ali Khanlarkhani wrote: When your name and family name is arabic you are Arab
What a bout my profile?!
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I'm_alive) { cout<<"I love programming."; }
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Hi
For example I mean if I'm a programmer and start coding for Osama bin Laden I'll be ashamed of myself not proud. I cant be proud of myself, even if I'm a successful programmer:
I think HERO of one person is TERRORIST of other person and reverse also true. I think there is no need to put the name of Osama or other people. I may be not very useful to start such debates on code project
Anyways we should leave it here
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Oh, sorry.
I just wanted to put an example here. I mean I was wondering to give an example that anyone hates, but It is my bad. Please accept my apologies. I'm so sorry. I'll correct that typo right now.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I'm_alive) { cout<<"I love programming."; }
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Yeah. I guess it depends on the company you're in.
Only fools rush in. Foo!
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What is so special about a programmer to make me proud of myself or my job?
To be proud, I need more than just being a programmer.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I'm_alive) { cout<<"I love programming."; }
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Asslam o Alaikum Hamed
I agree with you, being a programmer there is nothing to be proud
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qumer101 wrote: I agree with you, being a programmer there is nothing to be proud
Then why do it?
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Well Angus
There may be number of reasons,like you do not have anything else to do . Sometimes you are in one profession but it is just profession for you nothing more than that. So in this case you do not feel proud to do things at ur work place.
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qumer101 wrote: Well Angus
Out of curiosity, why did you choose to address me with "Angus"? I've noticed a number of people have done that over the time I've been a member here and I could never understand why.
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There is no special reason behind this.
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Okay - You just preferred my middle name then... Fair enough.
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Well perhaps one possible reason is that there's a cult of cannibals out there and "Angus" just reminds them of eating, which makes them feel happy, and then they are more predisposed to respond to you with a post. Maybe. Or something like that. Then again perhaps that fails Occam's Razor
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It doesn't make me proud when I can barely do anything worth whiled, if I could i'd be proud
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: why did you choose to address me with "Angus"? I've noticed a number of people have done that over the time I've been a member here and I could never understand why.
One reason may be the regional trait.In Pakistan mostly the second or middle name is used, unless specified the other name. For example, "Mohammad Idrees Ahmed" is called by "Idrees". Sometimes, a person is identified by their family name, which traditionally appears as the last name, but this is rare.
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We ought to be proud of software development.
Why?
Just look at our representatives in this field: Microsoft and Google and the gangs, they change the world.
That's why this field of work is not any less important than other fields such as discovering new medicines to cure diseases (biology).
Why is it that people think lawyers are liars and crooks, but they're proud, they always tell people they are lawyers.
mnnca
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Actually, I am proud - I am more than just a programmer. I can deconstruct any profession or business process into abstract concepts and render them into a series of complex algorithms with perhaps a dozen different code languages. With Photoshop or Lightwave I might render the interface and implement it with Flash, DHTML or Silverlight.
They in other business departments seem to have difficulty mastering their one job and cannot handle one spoken language much less a programming language which changes constantly.
Nicholas DL
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