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What about all of the above
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Multiple language support
Cross-platform support
Multiple device support
Are not what developers want in VS.Net.
I would love to see plug in code generators, ie Component gallery, these are great for boilerplate projects.
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Norm Almond wrote:
Multiple language support
Cross-platform support
Multiple device support
Are not what developers want in VS.Net.
I welcome these all as positive, forward-thinking moves from MS. I have other priorities which are higher when I'm asked what is MOST important to me, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see these.
Gavin Greig
"Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye."
Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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Anyway, the question is about your IDE, not the languages themselves, isn't it ?
______________________
Mathieu Gardère
wam@mathieugardere.com
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mmm.. really i am so much confused when u ask me this..hihih
mm all of the above options are heartly welcomed, and i think once more about that..no no.. i dunno need all of them..bcz i want to do really something when i writedown the code(you peoples calls that as 'CODE' )
i prefer
1) Cross platfrom performance
2) integrated debugger
3) syntax coloring
4)support multiple devices
5) NO AUTO CORRECTION..!!!
6)NO AUTOFILL
7) SUPPORT NICE EMOTICONS LIKE those in codeproject
itis very nice to add them in comments
now what you think ???
~CodeTheDreams~
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Renjith R wrote:
7) SUPPORT NICE EMOTICONS LIKE those in codeproject
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:bob:
<marquee>:jig:</marquee>
 
ok, im going to bed now...
- Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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...are there 15% who haven't voted for integrated debugging?
Gavin Greig
"Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye."
Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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Gavin Greig wrote:
...are there 15% who haven't voted for integrated debugging?
... and also are there 15% who haven't voted for "Speed and stability" ?
 ( Strange, isn't it ?
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Gavin Greig wrote:
...are there 15% who haven't voted for integrated debugging?
AntonS wrote:
... and also are there 15% who haven't voted for "Speed and stability" ?
Strange, isn't it ?
Very strange, indeed!
It's also strange how 30% of the voters don't want quality compilers?
Is it possible to write good quality software with a poor compiler?
Hardly... i guess...
If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work, Y is play, Z is keep your mouth shut. - Albert Einstein
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Anyone who's used IntelliJ for Java or the newer OpenSource Eclipse IDE will have fallen head-over-heels for IDE refactoring. It's a very powerful tool to have. Unfortunately, not many developers have come across it. There's a VS.NET addin available (though it's shareware) at www.dotnetrefactoring.com. Also, checkout the VS.NET project going on at http://sourceforge.net/projects/monocle which has some nice editer extensions on the go.
In case you've not come across refactoring before, check out www.refactoring.com. Examples include 'Rename method', 'Inline variable', 'Extract method', 'Rename class', 'Replace temp with query' etc... try such a tool out and watch your productivity and code quality increase dramatically.
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Personally I prefer the old fashioned way of refactoring code, by doing it myself. By making refactoring quicker and easier, you run the risk of doing more refactoring than is necessary - which can lead to introducing more problems than you fix.
Michael
The avalanche has started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.
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I've never heard of 'too much refactoring'. What signs would you say indicate this? What sorts of problems can it introduce?
The practice of refactoring is devoted to changing the structure of existing code, without changing it's behaviour (ideally this is ensured by a unit test suite). Refactoring (with or without a tool) should always remove unnecessary complexity from code, and enhance its readability, understandability, and extensibility.
When understood in this way, it becomes clear when to start refactoring, and when to stop.
I think every developer has coined a name for a class/method/field only to later discover its usage varied from what was originally expected. Refactoring tools allow the developer to quickly (and effortlessly) bring the naming/structure of the code inline with the current design, addressing old and incorrect assumptions. Nobody gets it right first time, nor should they have to!
More information on refactoring is available here: www.refactoring.com
Java IDEs IntelliJ, Eclipse and JBuilder all support refactoring. I believe Smalltalk has had refactoring support for many years.
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drewnoakes wrote:
I've never heard of 'too much refactoring'. What signs would you say indicate this? What sorts of problems can it introduce?
I've learnt from experience that making too many changes to a product just in the name of refactoring tends to lead to the introduction of more bugs and in a lot of cases reintroducing a problem that has already been fixed.
Code doesn't rust but programmers have a tendency to want to refactor old code because it doesn't suit their current style. However sometimes it is better to let sleeping code lie. It's a judgement thing. It's an experience thing.
Michael
The avalanche has started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.
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I want everything on the list pretty much. otherwise I might as well use notepad.
"When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."
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Philip Fitzsimons wrote:
I want everything on the list pretty much
Me too. I checked on all the options 
![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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That was my first response too. I had a tough job reducing my selections to the "must haves" rather than "really should have", which would have been the whole list.
I want to see more applications including SourceSafe integration, including Office apps (yes, I know add-ins exist, but I want support built in) and, basically, all document-generating applications and DBMSes. (I'm not asking for too much am I?  )
Gavin Greig
"Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye."
Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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That's why I would like if there is something for C++ as Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) for java.
It has just everything from the list + much more with plugins.
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I am no Eclipse expert (just started using and learning Java) but I have been missing intellesence and drag and drop editing that the MS IDE has. It is true that Eclipse is very extensible, so perhaps you know of a plug-in that can add that to the code editor?
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Leslie Software
http://www.cyberus.ca/~lara_ian/LeslieSoftware/
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ctrl + space == autocomplete (+ automatically adds imports)
I dont know about drag and drop (never used it).
Btw, nobody mentioned refactoring which is built in in eclipse. It is a great feature that I miss in VC a lot.
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Eclipse has the only big drawback that it is VERY slow. What use is autocompletion if I'm faster in writing the identifier names than waiting for the drop-down choice to appear?
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I didn't notice 
I run it at home at 300MHz/384MB and didn't notice it's slow, actally it's much faster then VS.Net (same speed as VS 6 though).
In my project tree I usually have 1000+ classes and autocomplete works instantly.
+ excellent debugger (I debug application server in it).
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fast, stable and easy to use. intellisense is nice, but not required, as long as the important buttons are nicely layed-out and clearly labelled. and, it's nice if i can do most of the work with my hands and fingers, as i don't like to bring mice into those situations.
-c
Zzzzz...
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When you find a woman that's 'easy to use', let the rest of us (males) know. We'd like to see one someday.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
When you find a woman that's 'easy to use', let the rest of us (males) know. We'd like to see one someday.
Regards,
Brian Dela
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger Wright
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Chris Losinger wrote:
I like my women like I like my IDEs
How about going down easily and often?
Or did we do all these jokes last time.
Michael
The avalanche has started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.
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