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Don't have an office as the developers were excluded from office space a few years ago. Plus if we did have an office, for me it would be over 18,000 km away.
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You forgot to include:
"Yawwwnn, I'm retired."
I guess everyone here is a lot younger than I am! LOL
Universal Compiler Error 49: unrecognized developer. (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore, or assume (F)etal position
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so, if you're retired... Then EITHER you have a HOBBY or you are consulting.
If the latter, answer the question.
If you have a HOBBY, we can assume you are at home.
Do retired people normally keep their offices? (too young to know... LOL)
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If there is a good reason to go into the office, then do it. It's better for collaboration, some home offices are insufficient for productivity, and the coffee is free.
However, if the reason you're asked to be under the watchful eye of the boss is due to either their incompetence to manage you remotely or their untrusting nature, it's time to look for a new boss. Self-reflection is needed to ensure you are in fact trustworthy and productive and not playing video games. That is, if the temptation at home is too great, there's a reason to go into the office.
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When I worked at home I did play videogames AND was more productive (ADHD, short bursts of hyperproductivity and long stretches of laziness) than in office, where I'm considered productive.
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I've been working from home for over 15 years now - we used to meet at the office once a week, then it went down to every 2 weeks, then once a month...then just for the Christmas lunch...and as of right now (Covid has nothing to do with it) I haven't been face-to-face with any of my coworkers for over 3 years.
I'd be okay with meeting with my coworkers maybe once a month, but honestly I don't really miss it either.
At this point - if I had to go back to an office full-time, no ifs or buts - I'd seriously consider retiring instead. No matter which job I've had throughout my entire career, the office has already been at least 45 minutes away, and traffic is even worse today than last time I had to commute. No thanks.
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Doesn't apply any more as I retired during the pandemic. But, the only two reasons I kept a job as long as I did were 1) health insurance (lol USA#n) and 2) to get out of the house.
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agolddog wrote: 2) to get out of the house. So Herself retired before you did?
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Agreed.
The office is a building that is built around the idea of helping you getting your job done.
It's a home office, but optimized for its task.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I've been working from home for almost 10 years. I no longer have an "office" at the Office. The development and testing infrastructures in my home office are much more seamless and better equipped than the virtual environments I would have to use at the office. If I had to go into the office even once or twice a month, my productivity would definitely decline. Furthermore, the office is 75 miles away (I live well out in the country), and losing three hours a day minimum to a commute is a killer.
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Without posting anything too personal - where in the US are you?
I live 15 minutes from "the office" - but that place is a mushroom zone. The s/w group is in a back section of the building with no daylight what so ever. If a tornado came through, we might know about it. I have all of the equipment in my home office as I do in my "cube" and December means fiber in the house. In the north Georgia USA area, there has been an explosion of high end building "in the country" because people know it makes no sense to commute.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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North Texas, Northeast of the Dallas area.
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Should rather've been:
| How much has your attitude towards work-from-home changed since the [...] pandemic ?
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Working with special hardware writing control systems. Ofttimes emulation is
OK but sometimes you just need to bump against hardware.
"Funny" thing is having worked from home off and on since 2011 I have a better
setup, better computer and monitors, better desk and chair than in the office.
Going into the office is like slumming around for the day.
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I'm willing to start in an office for the first couple of months and then to touch base a few times a year if I must, so long as the vast majority of my work is done at home. A few times a month? Not a chance.
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I agree with this.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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I've been mostly working from home for 20 years, as I'm the primary carer for my wife. As her condition has progressed I've needed to spend more and more time helping her. So now if I couldn't work from home I would have to give up work completely.
Luckily my company have been fine with this, and in fact they have now closed my office completely as, post COVID, everyone is working from home.
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I usually work from home, but when I must deploy and test my work, I MUST travel to my customer location as I am an industrial programmer that program industrial machines and robots and, trust me, those does not fit in my dining room.
In any case I've found some customers that ask me to make the offline part at their offices. Usually, they change their mind when they start seeing bills regarding the commute.
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I worked for seven years on small industrial machines and they were definitely bigger than any room of any house (including a freaking mansion) I lived in. And the power they need to operate is not something readily available in residential areas anyway.
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home office in some remote cabin in Oregon.
company sends program manager once a month who pays cash in advance for my work, and apologizes for disturbing me
said manager kept waiting outside the cabin while i count the money.
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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For me at least, I much prefer to be in the office, I am in work mode while in the office. When I was quarantining with COVID, I was trying to work on some things from home, I thought I was going to go crazy.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
modified 21-Nov-22 15:27pm.
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For the first month of lockdown I set up a desk and such in my garage. And it worked OK until the temperature became too high.
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I wish that I could, aside from the physical distractions, I found that I could not concentrate to write even simple code, and I'm clueless as to why.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I am the only developer and live in a different state. No office to go to - boss works from his basement.
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