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Roger Allen wrote:
* Why does this feel like setting up a blind date?
LOL. SWM seeks SBM for fun and adventure in London, discreet is the word. C++ position preferred.
Check on The Lounge. I have put a "pub crawl in london" post up, we can sort it out there. And of course, you can drink non-alcoholic drinks and where your t-shirt, we will just take the mickey out of you *groan, bad joke!*
Actually I won't drink much either, simply because drinks are so expensive here and I have a meeting each day this week and don't want to arrive under the weather.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Roger Allen wrote:
I just need to convice my girlfriend to come to London with me
Tell her she can meet a real live South African... though that may put her off, hmmm?
Roger Allen wrote:
programmers in the office are out on a 4-day training course in London this week (with Hotel rooms), but not me?
One of "those" "training" vacations. Probably find them all in Soho chatting up "women" with adams apples.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Paul Watson wrote:
read an article by Vindaloo Jones
With your permission (and blessing) I would like to name my geek superhero alter ego "Vindaloo Jones". This is far exceeds the charm of "Mondo Pete" (of "Mondo Pete's Memory Emporium" fame, shamelessly lifted by me from Dan Gookin's excellent book on Memory Management for DOS 5.0).
/ravi
"There is always one more bug..."
ravib@ravib.com
http://www.ravib.com
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
With your permission (and blessing) I would like to name my geek superhero alter ego "Vindaloo Jones".
LOL no problem. I am sure I am not the only one who has said that name before, so you don't even need my blessing or permission.
Good luck, Vindaloo Jones.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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I bought "Programming DirectShow" by Mike Linetsky. What a pile of CRAP. I was looking for more info than MS was willing to include on the MSDN CD's or the DirectX SDK, and all I got was SOME of the same samples with NOTHING NEW.
Bullshit.
"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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My answer was "The web provides a better resource" meaning that really resource books have become not as important and therefore their value has dropped.
I would say a resource book is great for beginners who need a structured, step-by-step guide to whatever it is they are learning. Books do a better job at this mainly because they are more familiar to newbies than the web.
The web however provides a much broader range of resources for learning. You can get everything from "dumb as a plank" newbie guides to "genius level" newbie guides through to "you can programme your way out of Netscape browser running on Linux on the back side of the moon" resources.
The main problem at the moment though with the web is finding those resources. It is easier to find a book at a store than find the same, or better, information on the web.
However sites like CodeProject, MSDN etc. are filling this gap rather well. Even if they started charging, I would still use them rather than paying for a static book.
p.s. I don't think this survey is boring and it is very relevant considering what CP is trying to do and it's impact on book resources
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Paul Watson wrote:
p.s. I don't think this survey is boring and it is very relevant considering what CP is trying to do and it's impact on book resources
I think by boring, he moeant unlikely to generate controversy. The web is indeed a valuable resource, but I wouldn't be without books. I see them as complimenting each other, there is no way that a website can take the place of a 1000 page reference in your hands.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I think by boring, he moeant unlikely to generate controversy.
LOL, I am sure we can hatch some controversy :evil grin:
Christian Graus wrote:
there is no way that a website can take the place of a 1000 page reference in your hands
If I had to choose between the two, I would choose the web as the information resource I would use.
I agree they compliment each other, but the web is taking over IMHO 
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Christian Graus wrote:
there is no way that a website can take the place of a 1000 page reference in your hands.
I agree, especially when your company's firewall goes down, and you can't get to the web. 
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Paul Watson wrote:
p.s. I don't think this survey is boring
Paul
I didnt mean boring. I meant after the huge fights we had last week, this one will be kinda quieter and thus slightly dull
Nish
p.s. I am not getting email notifications now 
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
I didnt mean boring. I meant after the huge fights we had last week, this one will be kinda quieter and thus slightly dull
Oh, I am sure we can stir up some controversy... :evil grin:
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
p.s. I am not getting email notifications now
Same here, I thought our email server was in the wrong, but...
Oh well, at least I can get some work done now
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Paul Watson wrote:
I would say a resource book is great for beginners who need a structured, step-by-step guide to whatever it is they are learning. Books do a better job at this mainly because they are more familiar to newbies than the web.
The web however provides a much broader range of resources for learning.
That's nice
Paul Watson wrote:
However sites like CodeProject, MSDN etc. are filling this gap rather well. Even if they started charging, I would still use them rather than paying for a static book.
What are you talking about?Maybe "Chris Maunder" hear it?
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Certain Authors rock we are often lead to believe,
But I'm guessing that quite often the collaboration of the editorial staff are just as important as the Authors ability.
Editors etc can both filter and direct content.
One thing I would like to see implimented one-day is a standard technical layout utilized.
So going from one book to another feels like you are in the same family.
Regardz
Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote:
So going from one book to another feels like you are in the same family.
Of course, not everyone would ever subscribe to such a thing and those who did would be accused of pursuing a monopoly, or stifling creativity...
I agree though - the editor is probably the unsung hero of many technical ( and other ) books.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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Most authors hate their editors. In his short story collections Asimov often criticised some of his editors for making changes he felt were totally unwanted.
As a failed novelist [well at least right now] I know what that means too. My editors made so many changes that I thought were wholly uncalled for
Nish
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
Most authors hate their editors. In his short story collections Asimov often criticised some of his editors for making changes he felt were totally unwanted.
As a failed novelist [well at least right now] I know what that means too. My editors made so many changes that I thought were wholly uncalled for
It is, in most cases, an irrational hatred.
You don't hate your editor, you hate the fact that the piece you submitted was not up to scratch. You then target that hatred or anger not at making your work better, but straight back at the "incompetent fool of an editor who does not get my point."
I have also heard Asimov say that without some of his editors he would never have gone on to write as prolifically as he has.
Editors provide sane, sound and realistic advice back to new and old authors. They know the market, they know the readers and remember: They have seen every type of author before and they know what works and what does not.
Of course there are bad editors just as there are bad authors.
So Nish, take that frustration and learn from your editors extensive knowledge. Then improve your writing. Be thankful your editor even read your work!
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Paul Watson wrote:
So Nish, take that frustration and learn from your editors extensive knowledge. Then improve your writing. Be thankful your editor even read your work
I am perfectly happy with my editor. It's just he didnt know cricket properly and wondered what I meant by 'leggie'
Now I need to market my book. They [publishers] sent me 15 complimentary copies. I didnt know I was supposed to market my book, so I distributed it among close family and friends.
Now I donno if they'll send me another 20 copies, so that I can try sending it to various newspapers and magazines.
Perhaps all you guys can order one book each  as it is only $3.26 [USD] and the publishers will think, "hey this book might be worth taking a risk and might print 1000s of copies]
Nish
p.s. I wrote it in a P G Wodehousian style
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Where can we buy it ? I reckon it would be pretty special to have a 'Nish'on my bookshelf.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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My book's back cover :-
http://www.busterboy.org/writings/slasmc_back.JPG
Front cover:-
http://www.busterboy.org/writings/slasmc_front.JPG
Regards
Nish
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That's just prima donna behaviour. I've been published by WDJ ( I know, it's not that big a deal compared to a book, but the only analogy I can draw from experience ), and I've at times complained when the editing has IMO detracted from the content of my article ( as in when I get galleys and something can be done about it ), but as far as I can see, if they are paying to publish my words, they own them and can choose which bits they think are fitting, and which bits are not, for whatever reason.
I suppose Asimov can claim to be art, whereas I'm struggling to claim my articles are science, wherein lies the difference.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOzI live in Bob's HungOut now
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
a failed novelist
what did you write?
stories about small monitors?
bernhard
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in
the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
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It is a romantic comedy
Title :- "Summer love and some more cricket"
The publishers expect me to market it though which I cannot
But if you want to buy the book, I can give you the publishers address so that you can order one straight from there. That might prompt them to do some marketing
Its only Rs 150 [$3.26], so you can afford it
Regards
Nish
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sounds like a chick flick.. and i have to admit that i don't like romantic comedies.. (altough i think when you've wrote it it has to have the same humor that you are vaporising in the lounge.. which would make it pretty interesting)
.. i didn't know that you are such a romantic person nish (playing half life instead of learning com.. rude guy)
and i wonder how this looks like
"summer love and some more cricket" by nish [buster boy]
sounds great
bernhard
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in
the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
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Hi Nish,
Great to know that you have written novels
I would love to have the book, where can i get it.
can you get me a url or publishers address.
regards
Kannan
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I think you can order a copy from the publishers.
I dont have the exact address right now.
I'll post a link later
Nish
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
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