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I enjoyed that +5
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Thanks for telling your story. That is fascinating.
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I was first introduced to computer when i was in class V. i started professional programming in 2004
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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Hi Alok,
Humm I was watching you since 2006 ...
When I was fresher, I read your 45 day series article. The concept was really cool
I believe in LOVE AT FIRST SITE...
Bcoz I have loved my Mother...
even since I opened my eyes...(ICAN)
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Shilpi Boosar wrote: When I was fresher, I read your 45 day series article. The concept was really cool
thanks .... me too liked the concept... but never able to find much time to write more
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture
cheers,
Alok Gupta
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I no longer program so my cumulative years ended a few years back. Unless you consider the occasional scripts programming, which I don't since they're not what I'm paid to do.
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The original survey had the greatest number of developers, 30%, having worked 2-5 years... 7 years later, in the early results to this survey, the bulge is at 30% having worked over 20 years. What's up? Did the old-timers discover CodeProject.com sometime between then and now?
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Perhaps it's because this survey clarifies that "working" means "getting paid". I have a little over 5 years of actual work, dating back to my first job about 8 years ago, though I have been programming in school (some consider that "work") for about 11 years (maybe 13 or so if you count that turtle-based "programming language" where the turtle could only turn in one direction).
I put 5-10 years since I've only been paid to work for just over 5 years of my life.
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I guess so, I joined 2.5 years ago.
while (e) { Coyote(); }
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That's easy, just bill your client 2.5 hours for every hour you work.
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It could also be different people voting. It's only 1k out of 7.5 million.
Jeremy Falcon
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Sometimes, I think I've been doing this for too long - since early eighties - but then I look back and see how far we have moved.
Not just in hardware (though that is an enormous improvement on what we had when I started), or just languages (ditto), or tools (ditto with HUGE knobs on), but mostly in technique, and focus. Then it was "heads down, concentrate on the task in hand". Now, it is much, much more planning for the future, and trying to design re-use into modules from day one. This actually produces better results, even when we never reuse the code.
I may have been in the same industry for a long time, but it isn't the industry it was when I started, I'm glad to say. It's changed, and so have I.
Now, the "hobby" element is nearly eliminated from the workplace, and a good degree of professionalism is coming in to replace it. No bad thing, that.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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I wrote first computer code in 1980, but took software development as a profession over a decade later. Many professions involve writing computer code to some extent.
Best,
Jun
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... Now that I have your attention, since 1998
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The first computer I programmed (in 1959) was a Stantec Zebra, a paper tape based machine.
The last computer I programmed (in 2011) is an Apple iPad for which I am developing an app to display Sharepoint data.
There is no reason why computing should be a young man's occupation because it relatively easy and inexpensive to acquire the latest H/W and S/W to keep up with the latest technology. I believe that it is every professional developers obligation to keep up to date. Once you've learned some of the basics such as how hardware works, operating systems, and compilers, it becomes easy to see new things in a context that you already understand.
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There is no reason why computing should be a young man's occupation
true..
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You are the best example for young man.
<b>Today is a gift, that's why we call it present</b>
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Absolutely agree. It worries me sometimes today to see young hotshot degree-holding developers who appear to have no real understanding of what is actually going on underneath what they are doing, i.e. at the lower levels. I know there's an argument that that is not necessary, but it's one that I don't subscribe to. Worse, these "young lions" are usually paid a heap more than me
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I agree - and it is difficult to see where this is going to lead. You know and I know that the lowest levels haven't changed significantly, but that layer after layer has been built on top of them.
Should a new paradigm evolve - organic computing say - how will the latest generation cope with replacing the creaking tower to reach the levels they are at now? As the old generation are squeezed out of the industry (by design, by death, or by default) can the "young blood" fill in the gaps? Not too likely on current showing.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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baw wrote: The first computer I programmed (in 1959) was a Stantec Zebra, a paper tape based machine.
The last computer I programmed (in 2011) is an Apple iPad for which I am developing an app to display Sharepoint data.
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I started developing (writing my first C code and never stopped then) in 1999.
I professionally started developing software and working with Professional companies in 2005.
With 5+ experience, i see many more people like me, with this survey results.
Current survey results comparison to 7 years back results:
- more people do not work as developer now
- there are more people who have just entered in coding now (w.r.t. compare count then)
- there are more senior developers and developers (not beginners) now
- very less developers now, who have very high experience
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I've been developing professionally since....damn....1981.
Anton...
Anton R. Bruce Sr.
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And hiding behind the wood pile since 2005? You do realise that was your first post since you joined? Congratulations! We need more mature, professional, developers here sometimes...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Yeah I started programming in 2004 & now 2011 & If I survive the 2012 doomsday, I'll do continue till 2025.
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