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That there is a major difference between a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and any I.S. degree. I am concerned that many of the C.S. answers where not C.S. but some other I.S. form.
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I have an Associate's of IS and a Bachelor's of CS, so I'm covered either way.
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One for Software Engineering, and the other for Computer Science - rather similar to the distinction between physics and (normal) engineering.
The bulk of CS students these days really just want to learn how to program. They aren't especially interested in p=np, finite state automata, nondeterministic compilation and the like (nor any of the non-trivial math that goes along with it).
Let the kids that just want to program, program. Let those who actually want to be scientists, be scientists.
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Which are you, programmer or scientist? And what do these scientists do?
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aspdotnetdev wrote: And what do these scientists do?
Write better software
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MidwestLimey wrote: Write better software
That is not necessarily true! I have worked at a university, and I can tell you for sure that the scientists were HORRIBLE programmers. Great minds and great ideas, but oh so crappy programmers.
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Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Why would anyone, with or without a computer science degree, write software in the first place? Besides, aren't we really "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction?" :p
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
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Not all of us are "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction".
For instance I am building critical embedded SW for Airborne Defense Systems.
Ps: I have an Electrical Engineering Degree and I am doing a Master Degree in Mechanical-Aeronautical Engineering.
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Brian C. Hart, Ph.D. wrote: Besides, aren't we really "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction?"
No. And if anyone uses that kind of language in my presence, I reserve the right to fetch a large hammer and give them a reprogramming they will never forget.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Nuff said. Money is better anyway
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
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But astrophysics is more fun... Want to trade that PhD for a MSC in Computer Science?
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PhD in computer science here. And I'm programming.. bad thing..
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Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"
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Heck, I was writing software (for pay) before I had any college degrees at all. I later got both BS and MS degrees, but in engineering rather than CS.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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That's Bronze Swimming Certificate and Silver Swimming Certificate.
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So if I was a drowning brick, you could save me? Providing you had time to change into your Pyjamas of course.
The Whiteboard - Surely the most remarkable invention ever?
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I don't have a computer science degree. But I do have a science degree.
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Yes, I think that would have been an interesting poll, too.
As the poll above shows, it's almost 50-50 between the people who write software and have a CS degree vs write software and don't have a CS degree. But, I think if the question was whether or not you have a SCIENCE degree of any kind, the percentage who said yes would probably be much higher in this case.
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I agree, I know many people who write code and do a very good job of it that have hard science degrees with some CS coursework, usually to facilitate their research.
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They didn't have CS degrees when I was there - I did mechanical. But we learned Fortran (at terminals which didn't have screens, paper came out, believe me...). Afterwards I went straight into software, and I am glad when a month goes by and I haven't had to do Fortran.
It is embarrassing that the new grads know a lot more than I do about some technical stuff. Well, I am not afraid to ask if I need their advice, and I do courses quite often and learn new stuff. Work would be boring otherwise. Am now learning how to use Qt.
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Same here. The term did not exist. I started in 1960 with Assembler, then moved on over the years to binary (ones and zeroes), Fortran, COBOL, VB, C, C# and Java. I enjoy learning new things every day.
JR
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Every one has some brilliance over other which no degree can justify. Degrees are just meant to express that "Since I had Degree, I had gone through certain routine, hard work to acheive the goal, thus I am capable of doing the Job".
Simply put it this way - If there are two candidate both having the same knowledge & skill set but one of them having degree and you need to choose only one - who will you prefer over other.
AnupKumarYadav
Delhi,India
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So u dont hv a degree na?
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FYI : I have MCA Degree, few certificates (MCP, MCTS) - and I am planning for few others...
AnupKumarYadav
Delhi,India
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AnupKumarYadav wrote: If there are two candidate both having the same knowledge & skill set but one of them having degree and you need to choose only one - who will you prefer over other
The one with the big ti...
Honestly? The one which will fit into the team and company better. The one which in my judgement, is likely to prove more useful in the long run. Degree / no degree is a lot less relevant than experience / no experience.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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