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honey the codewitch20-May-23 15:52
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jschell24-May-23 5:48
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Sander Rossel wrote:
SQL just isn't the tool to build complex systems with loops


But again bad code is just bad code. That is not a language problem.

Sander Rossel wrote:
If you're running a multi billion multinational the code is never simple.


But then they should have a DBA. Probably multiple DBAs.
And designs that optimize solutions before the code is written.
And budgets that allow for refactoring legacy applications (written when the company was very small.)

Like the above none of those are problems that the language can solve.

Sander Rossel wrote:
Last week I met someone who had never seen a CREATE TABLE script and who didn't know how to write an UPDATE from the top of his head, and he maintains over 10K of stored procedures


And about 10 years ago a billion dollar company lost all of their business and went bankrupt because they were storing credit card information they should not have been.

I worked at a company where the DBA not only was not using source control he did not even know what it was.

But those are one-offs.

Sander Rossel wrote:
(this was on a production server)


Same DBA above did all his work on the production server.

Sander Rossel wrote:
the Dunning-Kruger effect and when all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.


It is a messy world out there. That is not just true for programming. How many people are injured or even die each year because they are in a trench which has not been correctly shored up.

Perfection is an ideal that can never be achieved. And legacy systems are the norm in any business which is not a brand new start up. But even a start up is driven by cost/time constraints and not elegance.
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