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You mean you know of a competent recruiter?
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OriginalGriff wrote: incompetent recruiters
Pleonasm...
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That's the reason I don't LinkedIn 
I was also warned that some companies only look there; which is perfect, because they're obviously not really in the need for a programmer then.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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They want to pay you as a junior developer but really need a senior developer.
I get emails like this all the time from recruiters; it's not just LinkedIn.
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I can see how that might be frustrating or humiliating. I'm not a big fan of Java personally, but I feel I can code it. The thing that irritates me more than anything else is "Must have X years of experience in XYX" programming language. That's usually not a good indicator of a programmer's ability to adapt. When screening for candidates, companies should search on paradigms (Imperative, OOP and Functional) and possibly experience with APIs and business processes to see if a candidate is a good fit.
I'm thinking about applying for a IT job with the IRS, but for their external positions, they often say something like "Must have X number of years of programming experience in Java or COBOL..." I can understand why companies look for programmers with COBOL experience because COBOL is IMO very hard for a CS graduate to tolerate, but Java is a respectable language even if C# and Haskell are better
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Whenever I get a contact for something that's a bad commute, I always ask:
"Are they going to send a wi-fi enabled car each morning and evening?"
So far, haven't gotten a positive answer on that.
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It has always been like this in the profession. It is just becoming more pronounced as a result of the Internet and the constant churn of the technologies being used on it.
I retired in 2014, though I still do development on my own projects. And yet I still receive emails from recruiters for various positions, including quite a few, where my resume clearly demonstrates I have no experience in such areas.
And considering the increasing and rampant age discrimination in our profession, one would think that a quick look at my resume would clearly indicate that I would be too old for such consideration (And yes this form of discrimination will get everyone here as well; you ain't getting younger.).
Recently I signed up with Indeed to see if I could get some remote, software, technical writing work. Now I receive emails from Indeed for all sorts of projects that I don't have the slightest expertise in.
Before the Internet became a thing, recruiters would often list an entire laundry list of requirements for developers whether they worked in the Java Community or the Microsoft Development Community. Obviously the job specifications were so flagrant and outlandish one had to wonder how anyone ever got called in for an interview. 
Going back further to the day that IT was transitioning between Visual Basic 5.0 and 6.0, recruiters would not look at anyone without substantial Visual Basic 6.0 experience, even though there were no significant differences between the two environments by which a competent Visual Basic developer could not easily acclimate to...
The issues being reported here regarding the nonsense now coming out of LinkedIn recruitment for technical professionals is just another development in the on-going deterioration in the usage of technologies over the Internet.
In the last two years alone, I have seen a trend demonstrating that development is increasingly producing shoddy results. For example, I have seen an increased usage of flaky drop-down entry forms whereby if you move your mouse just slightly while attempting to enter some text, the form suddenly disappears along with your text. And it can be quite maddening after several attempts at this.
Of course the most serious examples are the ongoing disastrous issues with Boeing Corporation where present trends are starting to show that the company will very possibly be bankrupt by the end of 2020.
Though many tend to laugh off such issues, such as the one here with LinkedIn, the totality of such issues is becoming an increasing threat to society in general as it is merely compounding existing issues that many are becoming aware of.
For example, Silicon Valley software engineers are increasingly starting to demonstrate by speaking out that much of the smart-device technology that has been developed and still is in development is actually designed to impede the daily lives of their users. Instead of providing legitimate software processing, much of the software used on such devices is instead there to spy on users and\or collect their data (ie: recent lawsuits against Amazon for their ridiculous door-bell system), while giving the impression that the software is doing something useful (ie; FaceBook "Like" buttons).
I have been advising for quite some time to the younger professionals to get off this merry-go-round of "junk" technologies by simply refusing to use them in the way most vendors intend. So for example, stop using your cell-phones as if your entire lives are wedded to it. Instead simply use them for what the basic premise of their use was designed for originally, important and\or emergency communications with love ones and friends.
Do people really have to talk on their phones while on the toilet?
The idea of my professions on this is to remove the factor that has made our technologies today such a disastrous mess to society in general; the people who enable the tech vendors to achieve such success, such as people who may read this comment.
You cannot move forward in this instance expecting that such things will correct themselves as a result of altruism on the parts of tech vendors. They are driven by one thing only like all businesses; separating you from your monies and in many cases, even your own moral convictions. This entire profit-driven motivation began when the vested owners of the companies they created to actually produce decent products left due to retirement and other factors only to be replaced by what are called "professional managers"...
And for this we now have planes falling out of the sky...
So it is all on you to "Think" as the old IBM motto promoted before you do actually continue to invest in such "junk" technologies.
If you don't, things will only get far worse... 
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I just went to the O'Reilly site to check on a ebook I thought I "owned" and I saw this notice:
"In March 2020 the Members Library will be shutting down
Please download any ebook, video compilation, or other content you wish to save prior to March 2020." 
And, the notice is on the Library Sign-in page [^], so if you don't have to sign in, you won't see it.
Funny part is this blurb at the top of my library (emphasis mine): "Every ebook and video you’ve purchased through your O’Reilly account is available below. You get lifetime access to these products, and we will alert you when they are updated." I guess their lifetime is way shorter than mine. 
O'Reilly used to be my go-to publisher for books. You could almost never go wrong buying a Nutshell book. I was surprised when they stopped selling their own books. Now they can't even be bothered to keep the space for ebooks they promised to give you "lifetime access" to.
Their entire focus seems to be shifting to trade conferences and the so-called O'Reilly online learning, which is their subscription access service, formerly Safari.
I know books are "passé", and I'm probably dating myself by still wanting to read them, but this seems like another great service dying in favor of subscription pricing.
Anyway, enough ranting. 
Bottom line, if you have ebooks on O'Reilly and you want to keep them, be sure to get them downloaded prior to March.
Alan
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ajhampson wrote: You get lifetime access to these products
Ha ha, silly you. You thought lifetime referred to YOUR lifetime. Nope. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Same goes for lifetime warranties.
Always ask what the lifetime is for the product.
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If the product dies, then your support dies as well. That's simple to understand.
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Then don't blatantly promise me "lifetime" access! Keep the promises you make. Novel concept these days, I know. 
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It sounds as if you are expecting them to relate to your lifetime.
That's a complete misunderstanding. They are relating to the product they sold you.
When that product dies - which seems to be what has happened in this case - then you have no longer access.
O'Reilly couldn't possibly track the lives of each and every customer. Their products is all they care about.
For being slightly more serious:
This is a major reason why I am not using streaming services, neither for music, movies nor books. If it is not worth my time listening / watching / reading a second time (or more), then it wasn't even worth the first time. I always want the option to return to the same work. To me, "spoiler" is a silly concept: When I know that the butler is the murderer, I find great pleasure in re-reading from page one to see how cleverly the author step by step provides small clues, without revealing any more than absolutely needed. Even if I know the final chords of a tune, I enjoy the singer's voice on the second hearing. And so on.
During the first years of streaming, disk space was expensive. After some time, movies were taken out of the catalogs (I guess some of it had to do with publishing rights as well). Every time I came across lists of movies unavailable after a certain date, I could check 2-6 of them: But they are still available in my bookshelf, and will remain available for as long as I want, at no additional cost!
Today, disk is cheap, but rights questions remain. The Norwegian National broadcaster ("NRK") makes a major part of their productions over the last 60 years freely available, tagged "Available until: Always". Last newyear, contracts with the artists' organizations (actors, musicians, and all the others) was about to expire. To renew the contracts, the artists were demanding a doubling of the compensation for the next period. They came to an (undisclosed) agreement a couple days before the old contract exprired. If no agreement had been made, that would have been the end of "Always".
So, not only do I buy physical media music, movies and books - I've got around 4000 books in my shelves, 1500 CDs and 3-400 DVD/BDs: I also record a lot of radio music, often live, unavailable on CD. I save great shows and movies from the NRK archives / free streaming services. (Norwegian law explicitly grants me the right to do so, for privat, non-commercial purposes.) I will continue to do so, and continue to buy music, movies and books on physical media.
Two other reasons for going to my bookshelf rather than to the Internet: First - which books I read, and read again, which chapters I read is nobody's business! I know that it is impossible to completely avoid monitoring, but I strive towards reducing my electronic traces as much as possible. This is related to the second point: A survey of books been banned in the USA, the land of freedom, counted 1500+ titles. Often, it was not a nationwide ban, but the book only banned from public institutions like schools and public libraries. Yet I learned that several of the books in my shelves would have earned me a prison sentence if I moved to the USA and brought the books with me.
Over the years, quite a few artists have left the USA: While not thrown in jail, they have been actively "silenced" by commercial interests, religious groups, political movements, and sometimes the public autorities. I am quite sure that if streaming had been available in the 1940s, you wouldn't find many Charlie Chaplin movies in the catalogs. During the Viet Nam war, the Simon and Garfunkel "Silent Nigth / 7 O'Clock News" was banned from all major radio networks. Today, the White House takes steps to stop the publishing of unwanted books.
There are lots of examples from other countries as well (certainly including Norway!), but less widely known. In my shelves you can find books and movies banned in Norway. In some cases, the ban was lifted since I bought them. In other cases, I bought them while legal, but later "withdrawn" (I can keep my copy, but it cannot be sold).
Owning my own copy contributes not only to evade monitoring, but evade censorship as well.
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Member 7989122 wrote: Their products is all they care about.
That was actually my point (hidden in all the grousing  ): O'Reilly used to be one of the best book publishers, because books were their product. Now their business seems centered around conferences and the subscription model.
I understand the book market probably isn't what it used to be, and companies have to adjust to survive. I just really don't like the subscription model at all for books, music, or video.
As an aside, I am with you on owning physical copies. I have nearly all my music on physical CDs. All the video I care about is on DVD or BR. My book collection is also pretty big. I mainly buy e-somethings for the convenience of being able to travel with a collection in my tablet or phone. I try really hard not to get e-anything that I can't download and keep a copy of.
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Does an agnostic, insomniac, dyslexic stay up all night wondering if there really is a dog?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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11. You shall not bark.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Is a person into flagellation, necrophilia, and bestiality flogging a dead horse?
(I'll get my coat)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Quote: (I'll get my coat)
Right! You are banished from the forum. Banished! Banished! Banished for ever! 
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Not until we've searched his coat - he could have stolen CodeProject members in there!
Didn't you wonder what had happened to Death By Chocolate, Dalek Dave, Christian Graus, and Mike Martin? He may be trying to smuggle them out for a life of slavery on SmackOverdose.com!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The contents of my coat pockets are:
1 Timex digital watch (broken)
1 unused tissue
1 soiled
Boots (black)
Belt (black)
1 black suit jacket
1 pair black suit trousers
1 hat (black)
1 pair sunglasses
$23.07
(Bonus Internet points for those identifying the origin of the list)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Is that a 4 str, 4 stam leather belt? 
(World of Warcraft joke)
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Just an ordinary black belt. Nothing to do with gaming or martial arts.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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The Blues Brothers, 1980; those were the contents Jake Blues had when he was released from Joliet.
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We have a winner!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Mike Martin
It's always Mick Martin.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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