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Simples! Just grow taller! I did (1.90m) and now my desk fits perfectly.
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currently 29-30", was a few inches higher at my old job (the only good thing about cube furniture). I'm looking at an Uplift Desk to get the height back at home. Their desks go down as low as you'd like, but unfortunately they're a US company and their international shipping is almost a lost cause (Desk frames only, minimum order of $2k), so unless you can find a reseller they're probably out of the question.
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I got one of these:
Work smarter with Standing Desks, Ergonomic Chairs by Autonomous
And I love it. Not too much $, and only a little hassle to assemble. (Small house. Built it in the kitchen, didn't fit down the narrow hallway so I had to partially disassemble then reassemble in my office.)
Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with this company...other than being a customer.
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The desks at my office are not adjustable so I end up sitting cross legged on my chair.
In my 40 years in the computer business only one place I worked at (a startup) had adjustable desk heights. Unfortunately, I was only there for a little over a year since the place went down the tubes in the dotcom crash.
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I think your best choice is a height adjustable Keyboard tray.
I used to get back pain (between the should blades) and had a dislocating rib (Excruciating).
I was referred to someone who looked at me, touched me in the front about 2 inches from my armpit, and it hurt. He said "That's your problem". I said "No, it's my back". He said "Where it hurts, is a symptom. I am here to address the cause"...
He explained to me. My cold hands were caused by my keyboard being higher than my elbows.
My back pain was from typing in the normal CURVED position across my chest (Shoulders were NOT back).
And my monitor should be so my level eyes look at the 75% mark or a touch lower. To correct the tendency to look down, we want to look up at our monitor. It helps our posture, helps prevent "Computer Neck" or the Hunch many young geeks have.
I mention all of this because it is related. Your chair controls the distance to the floor. I bought my own Herman Miller chair at one company, because it is THAT important to me!
Your Keyboard will be setup to the proper and comfortable height. (And when you ADDRESS your keyboard he has me sit with my palms up, arms out, elbows where they would be for typing, this straightens your back, now put your hands in place without changing your posture).
Your monitors should be ABOUT arms length away. Mine are about 4-5 inches more than that. So I can see the screen without focusing my eyes. Also, I used to wear special glasses OPTIMIZED for that distance, and it got rid of my eye strain.
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The net result. I was seeing a chiropactor every week for the dislocating rib and back issues. He worked on me ONE Time, and I went back again. The problem NEVER happened again. From WEEKLY chiropractor adjustments to NOTHING. We became friends! LOL. (BTW, on 2 occassions the rib popped back out WHILE driving home from the chiropractor. Ugghhh).
GOOD on you for looking into this.
Control your environment for your comfort and optimal usage.
I am at my desk as much as 18hrs on some days. 12hrs is quite common.
But it's comfortable!
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Joan M wrote: I would like a table that would start at 65cm (25.6 inches) but it doesn't seem an easy thing.
I am guessing the real criteria might be '...and cheap too'?
Joan M wrote: I would like a table that would start at 65cm (25.6 inches)
This one does that.
ProDesk 60 Electric Standing Desk | Butcher Block | VARIDESK Sit-to-Stand Desks[^]
I use to have a desk at one company that I could lower far enough that I could sit on my heels on the floor or all the way to standing upright.
May be you could get one with wooden legs and cut out a chunk.
Or get a riser for your chair that fits under the desk. You could probably make that with some wood.
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And who is shocked that criminals would try to scam the JPay system? Apparently, the folk who wrote it.  
Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.
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I can understand their shock.
While it is well known that other people's software have bug. Mine is always bullet proof! 
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well I think it's good that these people are learning real world skills they can draw on when they are released, I mean isn't that supposed to be part of the program?
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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I think it's called rehabilitation.
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That's not a hack; thats simply abusing and exploiting a broken system.
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I didn't write the article - and that's "close enough for journalism majors" unfortunately. 
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OriginalGriff wrote: and that's "close enough for journalism majors" unfortunately.
As a journalism major I feel offended! 
(Yes, I'm really a journalism major!)
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Seriously? I'm impressed that you have thrown off the conditioning and learned technical stuff!
It does annoy when the "science reporter" clearly knows sod-all about the subject and just spouts buzzwords he hopes are relevant - and that's what they mostly seem to do all the time.
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Yes, really.
It's kind of a coincidence, I didn't really plan it.
I didn't know what the heck I was going to do after high school and decided to do a "common art and cultural sciences" study.
Three years later it turned out that I could do a journalism major so I though why the heck not.
What happened next will SHOCK you!
I failed the major due to a lack of studying and an abundance of World of Warcraft.
This guy TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND in a FEW SIMPLE STEPS!
I was able to get a job at my uncle's IT company (which he just bought from my parents).
That year I learned VB.NET, WinForms, SQL Server... And finished my major.
See how this guy EARNS a GOOD SALARY!
I'm now a kick-ass programmer with a wide array of technical skills who writes articles, blogs and books 
Other articles by Sander Rossel[^]
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LIBERAL ARTS TUTORS HATE THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK!
I'm impressed - I thought those courses were there to catch the Burger Hell career guys.
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Failing can be a good thing 
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I wrote some articles here on CP, but the article I learned from the most is the article that didn't even made it through the moderation queue.
It was very bad and one high rep mofo here on CP (I forgot his name and he isn't active anymore) called me an idiot (and many more things) for it and thought I needed to quit programming ASAP
Some good people here on CP told me to read up on SOLID and design patterns, which I did, thoroughly.
That was a career changer for me!
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I have to agree with you and Eddy here - you learn more from mistakes and failures than you do from successes. I think you have to have the failures in order to understand the successes.
This has nothing to do with why my early career is littered with exploded IC's (some of which have bounced off the ceiling), smoked capacitors, small fires, and people left beside a road for five hours because their name contained four 'N' characters ... Honest!
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OriginalGriff wrote: It does annoy when the "science reporter" clearly knows sod-all about the subject and just spouts buzzwords he hopes are relevant
Just noting that based on the authors of the original OP link doesn't seem to be a science reporter.
Not even sure these days if papers even still have science reporters.
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jschell wrote: Not even sure these days if papers even still have science reporters.
They do have reporters that write about science, but science reporters... I don't think so.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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This link to Marc Clifton's article is very great, thanks for this. Maybe you should place is also here Submit a new Article
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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