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I made the same pun - I'm starting to worry :P
Basically the next one to steal it would be me, I freaking love it.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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To be honest, I am not a big fan of Marzipan. Actually I avoid it.
But come to Germany and visit the city of Lübeck. You just cannot avoid marzipan here.
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Good. I'll take note - I'm pretty near to southern German border by the way, and someday I'll take a proper vacation in Germany.
super wrote: You just cannot avoid marzipan here. It will be the marzipan who'll be trying to avoid me.
Also most of the north european sweets are rich in gingerbread and cinnamon, two other addictions of mine.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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Except the selves all made of Lubeck marzipan[^]...
(I was there, but found marzipan far too sweet for me)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: too sweet for me The concept of "too sweet" is new to me. What does it mean? (seriously though, I have a tolerance to sweetness far higher than the average).
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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You can have mine; vile stuff.
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: You can have mine
Thanks Nagy, I'll turn my gin rations to you then
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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A pleasure to get you addicted
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Glad you found your Marzipan again but I can't think who stole it.
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I HATE marzipan and so does my German wife.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I'm sorry for both of you - that also means there is a bigger share for me
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
"just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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There has been lots of discussion about CVs, covering letters, interview questions.
But what happens if it all goes well, how do you get out of where you currently are?
How do you go about resigning?
What should a resignation letter contain, is it just a piece of paper for HR to file or does it serve any actual purpose?
Is "Dear boss, I'm off x weeks from today, love Chris*" enough or should you pad a little?
*I'd use your own name, but you get the idea.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I plan to do that first thing in the new year. I have looked up a short template which is only a few lines of text, but also mentions the required legal stuff.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I would say that a resignation letter should contain as little as possible. Specifically:
- Don't give reasons for leaving
- Don't make it personal
- Don't burn bridges
Basically, you never know when you might run across your former employer, so it's best to keep things civil.
The resignation letter should:
- Give the last date you will be present (don't forget to check your employment contract for any mandatory notification time)
- Assure cooperation in a smooth handover before that date
The resignation letter may:
- Indicate availability for consultation after your last day of employment (for a fee)
- Mention that it was a pleasure to work with them
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Bingo.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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This is the most sane, common sense approach to an HR requirement that I've ever seen.
It makes me wonder how effective the advice is, though, since I don't see the words "in triplicate" anywhere in the text
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You will be asked why you are leaving though, so just say its to 'take on new challenges'. Its generic enough that it doesn't say much, and leaves you in the clear looking like a progressive and adventurous person.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Don't make it personalDon't burn bridges
But I so WANT TO!!!
Marc
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You may give a reason for leaving, but then again you don't have to be too specific or critical. Your employer may well ask you anyway, especially if your resignation is unexpected. So, best make sure you have your reason for leaving well rehearsed.
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Mention that it was a pleasure to work with them
So if it wasn't, leave it out or lie?
Pete
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I did say that it was optional.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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As the saying goes, "it depends."
I've written one resignation letter in my professional career - after 18 years as chief sysprog with an Enormous State University's computer center (and that was 32 years ago; I'm still with my second employer). In my case the reason for leaving was disgust with the university's administration - an opinion shared by the computer center director. I gave the director a heads-up almost a year before I left that I was looking for another position, and in my formal resignation promised to stay through a major installation to help it go smoothly.
Since then I've twice been a manager (and both times escaped without serious injury) so I see the resignation letter from both sides. A few comments:
* If the departure is amicable, say so. "I've been privileged to work with the highly professional staff at World Wide Widgets but have found new opportunities to develop and use new skills elsewhere". Volunteer to help plan the transition to backfill your position. Don't say that if it's not true, but in that case don't lie.
* Note that if the departure is amicable (as was mine), ask your co-workers who think highly of your qualifications for permission to give their names and (perhaps personal) phone numbers to potential employers. Your employer will almost certainly refuse to disclose anything more than your dates of service, but that doesn't mean that you can't tell co-workers that you approve them going into detail. (No, this isn't part of the resignation letter but it's something to consider).
* The "normal" expectation by an employer is a two-week notice that you plan to leave, but the employee manual, contract, or other document may require longer notice. If possible give a lead time long enough to make a smooth transition (assuming no need to say "I'm gone"), but consider whether that will trigger security procedures. Many companies have a policy that any employee with access to sensitive data will be terminated immediately upon receipt of a letter of resignation, then be given a payment equal to the salary they would have received between notice and departure (typically called "payment in lieu of notice").
* If you think it necessary to explain - either in the letter of resignation or in the exit interview with HR - problems that led to your resignation, BE POLITE and to the greatest extent possible, describe the problem and not the personalities involved. Even if your current employer refuses to disclose the details of your work a potential employer may hear about you at industry meetings, and hearing about a "good-bye, you stupid idiots" resignation letter won't make a good impression about your ability to fit into a potential employer's workforce.
* Write the letter of resignation, then let it ferment for a few days. Read it again; did you write something that now sounds like a 2-year-old's temper tantrum? ("Revenge is best served cold.")
* Ask a friend - preferably but not necessarily working for your current employer - to read the letter. Ask for their gut reaction to it. (And if you're still looking for a job, do the same with your resume.)
Again, every departure from employment has its own unique characteristics; hopefully this gives you some things to think about.
Joe
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I had no problems "burning a bridge" (actually, it was barely a rope across a river) several years ago.
It didn't help that I was being forced to work 60+ hour weeks on a project-from-hell.
It didn't help that I was owed over $5000.00 USD in backpay.
It didn't help that we lost our insurance coverage - seriously, no insurance for well over two years - it makes me appreciate the ACA.
The straw that broke the camel's back? After walking out (and driving away) pissed, then coming back after cooling off some - the owner of the company had the audacity to make me choose between my education time (I was taking, at the time, both of Stanford's MOOC experimental courses - ML Class and AI Class - and doing well in both) or working long hours on a dumbass web application (which the client kept changing the specs on - lovely).
I value my education much more than that job - and I let him know with both barrels. I also let every other remaining employee there know as well why I was leaving (it was a very small company - 5 people or so).
I never got my backpay - despite sending a year's worth of Dunning notices - even a letter from my lawyer. Unfortunately, I didn't have the money to pursue it further (and even if I had, most of my money would have been eaten in lawyer fees). In the end, I found a new place of employment making 10K more, with benefits. I completed my studies, too.
A few months later, two other people had quit (one told me he saw the writing on the wall when I left). A few months after that, the owner bought out his partner, and his partner moved away. Time passed, and after a brief stint with a couple of coders who couldn't make heads or tails of the code (seeing as the totally fubar'd the company website - which was based on our custom framework) - the company, AFAIK, imploded. On paper, I think it still exists as a name - but it no longer sells it's web development services.
It's been years since - and I don't regret one thing about my method of resignation. There was no respect for me as a person or an employee, so I didn't feel like I needed to respect that company or employer in return.
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Every rule has its exceptions...
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Way back in the late 1980's, I worked for a company that built minicomputers (remember them? ). At the time, minicomputers were losing out to PCs. My boss and I came to loggerheads over working significantly more than eight hours per day for the duration of a major long-term project. I declined and, for my lack of team spirit, I was laid off. I found another job within a few weeks.
About a year later, HR at my new company came to me and asked if I would recommend my former boss for a position with them. Guess what my answer was...
P.S. They did not hire them.
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© 2009, Rex Hammock
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