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I am thinking about using a static code analysis to identify security vulnerabilities as I and my team write code. (Like Sonar lint but for security).
I have come across some extentions like
Security code scan[^] or Synk Security[^].
Do you have any experience with such extensions?
If yes do you think they are useful?
Do you have other recommendations?
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You do know that Sonar can help identify security vulnerabilities don't you? If you're using Visual Studio, you can also use security analyzers to help detect OWASP errors. To be honest, and I speak with a lot of experience in this area, SAST can be more dangerous because it gives you a false sense of safety. All SAST tells you is that the code you checked in doesn't have a vulnerability. It's not that great at determining that a dependency of a dependency of a dependency has a known vulnerability, or that you have an unpatched container or OS vulnerability. You need to consider security as a top to bottom thing, so you would be looking to leverage SAST, DAST (the dynamic version of SAST), IAST (the infrastructure version), and so on.
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We forced to use Checkmarx One - the most annoying thing is that 90% of the 'findings' are BS... For the first time - after that it is 100% BS (if you fix the real problems)
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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I can recommend the free OWASP Dependency-Check.
I found Snyk disappointing, for .NET it only scans NuGet packages and ASP.NET applications are automatically marked as "high security risk".
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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And I think I found my most ambitious idea yet.
Training models to make LLMs spit out code for input specs where the code loops hand written.
So like parser generators.
DAL generators
etc.
Different model for each. Each model comes in a nuget package along with a C# source generator that invokes it.
The only thing is it will require hosting your own LLM. I have two 4080s across two machines, so it's not a problem for me - part of why I bought them, but I wonder how practical it is in general.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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honey the codewitch wrote: I have two 4080s across two machines, so it's not a problem for me - part of why I bought them, but I wonder how practical it is in general.
While it might work, I suspect that at the current state of the art it would not be cost-effective. The costs of hardware, collection of training data, classification of the training data, etc. are likely to be more expensive than the time that you'd save on the coding.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I mean that I intend to release nuget packages with pretrained models, integrated as C# Source Generators that prompt a local LLM, trained with a (relatively) small model to undertake a specific type of coding task, like generating a parser given a context free grammar.
I am not looking to make an all purpose code generator or anything like that.
My interest is in code synthesis by which I mean generating "hand written" code.
The differences between a generated parser and a hand rolled parser are far deeper than basic cosmetic. The details of how they work are different, even if the principles are the same. Mainly a generated left recursive parser with fixed lookahead will always greedy match. A left recursive descent parser such as hand rolling would produce can switch between lazy and greedy matching, leading to more efficient and often much smaller code.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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nuget packages - pretrained models - LLM - coding task - generating a parser - context free grammar ...
Perfect candidates to extend the Word List in the Makebullshit - Tech Bullshit Generator[^]
This wonderful site is not updated yet with new AI buzzwords. Maybe it's time to do this.
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I'm wondering if you may have enough patience case waiting for results of a training task lasts longer then one or two days 
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I mean, stable-diffusion runs pretty quickly on my machine.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Define 'pretty quickliy' 
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Stable diffusion takes minutes at most even for largest renders it can do in 16GB on my card. Usually under a minute to render to my prompts.
Edited: That's on my laptop's "4090" which is actually a 4080 die. But it is not as fast as my desktop's 4080. I haven't run SD on my desktop yet.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Sure,
but we should not compare the time which a trained model needs to finish a given job with the time it needs to train a model (and then find/optimize the right parameters and run training again and again).
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I'm training the model once to do a specific task, and releasing that trained model.
I am not building models as part of a code generator. I don't even know why that would come up.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Where will you get the training data?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 5hrs 20mins ago.
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That's the part I don't know enough about yet.
1000 foot view I'd like to train it using traditional code generators.
"Hey ChatGPT, see this? This is the result of this input grammar. Now can you improve it?"
Except actual training, not prompting. I only prompted just now to give you an idea of what i want.
I have no idea how to use training data, or what it even really looks like.
I've never done anything related to "AI" or LLMs. I've barely even asked ChatGPT anything and last time I did it tried to dox me. 
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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