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honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 1:33

2-Aug-19 1:33

they really need to unify these different .NET platforms (Core vs Windows)

right now, because of the ugliness of using core console apps from a windows command line, i've made a windows executable, and packaged all my commands up into one monolithic exe. I'll make a similar core exe too, using the same codebase (stupid, i know)

The reason for the monolithic exe was that it was the difference between creating 2 projects or 10 projects.

Anyway, i don't like having to workaround all this crap. I'd have probably broken my app up differently in .NET 5. As it is here's my usage screen

Usage: pckw <command> [<arguments>]

Commands:

pckw fagen [<specfile> [<outputfile>]] [/class <classname>] [/namespace <namespace>] [/language <language>]

  <specfile>    The pck specification file to use (or stdin)
  <outputfile>  The file to write (or stdout)
  <classname>   The name of the class to generate (or taken from the filename or from the start symbol of the grammar)
  <namespace>   The namespace to generate the code under (or none)
  <language>    The .NET language to generate the code for (or draw from filename or C#)

  Generates an FA tokenizer/lexer in the specified .NET language.


pckw ll1gen [<specfile> [<outputfile>]] [/class <classname>] [/namespace <namespace>] [/language <language>]

  <specfile>    The pck specification file to use (or stdin)
  <outputfile>  The file to write (or stdout)
  <classname>   The name of the class to generate (or taken from the filename or from the start symbol of the grammar)
  <namespace>   The namespace to generate the code under (or none)
  <language>    The .NET language to generate the code for (or draw from filename or C#)

  Generates an LL(1) parser in the specified .NET language.


pckw ll1 [<specfile> [<outputfile>]]

  <specfile>    The pck specification file to use (or stdin)
  <outputfile>  The file to write (or stdout)

  Factors a pck grammar spec so that it can be used with an LL(1) parser.


pckw xlt [<inputfile> [<outputfile>]] [/transform <transform>] [/assembly <assembly>]

  <inputfile>   The input file to use (or stdin)
  <outputfile>  The file to write (or stdout)
  <transform>   The name of the transform to use (or taken from the input and/or output filenames)
  <assembly>    The assembly to reference

  Translates an input format to an output format.

  Available transforms include:

   pckToLex     Translates a pck spec to a lex/flex spec
   pckToYacc    Translates a pck spec to a yacc spec
   xbnfToPck    Translates an xbnf grammar to a pck spec.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

#realJSOP2-Aug-19 1:38

#realJSOP

2-Aug-19 1:38

.Net WAS unified, and then they muddieid the water with .Net Standard and .Net Core, which are both apparently different from .Net Framework.

.Net Core is a fix looking for a problem.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 1:41

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 1:41

basically i agree since I already can run .NET PEs on linux.

still, i build in .NET core because i'm not sure how deep that compatibility runs - for example, will only linux run a .NET win PE, or will anything running mono be able to? what about the other CLR/CLI implementations, etc? these are all questions I don't currently know the answer to and there are plenty more too. And I don't want to have to find out the answers. So I build in core

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

#realJSOP2-Aug-19 1:56

#realJSOP

2-Aug-19 1:56

As long as you don't have a UI, your ,net *framework* app should run on linux/mono. Keep in mind that mono (last time I checked) was SEVERELY behind the power curve as far as .net versions are concerned. If your app DOES have a UI, you may be able tio run it under Wine, but I see that as at least as much of a crap shoot as using mono.

As an alternative, you might want to try writing your code in C++.Net, get it working there, and then ciopying the source code (the cpp files) to a Linux C++ project, and try compiling it native on linux.

I've generally found that as we progress in dev technology, we get further away from being able to do cross-platform dev. This has been a problem ever since Windows was first introduced.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 1:58

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 1:58

I'm not going to do this in C++ as there are already a zillion parser generators out there in C++

This one lets you use those tools with it at least. (Yacc/Bison and Lex/Flex supported so far)

I'm fine working with Core and the Desktop app for now.

The only gui app I have isn't necessary to use the tools. It's just a bonus more or less.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

Sander Rossel2-Aug-19 2:12

Sander Rossel

2-Aug-19 2:12

Why not JavaScript? It runs everywhere[^] (except in that one browser you didn't test) Big Grin | :-D

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Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 2:13

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 2:13

Actually I've been considering targeting both javascript and SQL92 with my parsers and tokenizers.

Yes, parsing in SQL

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Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

Sander Rossel2-Aug-19 3:36

Sander Rossel

2-Aug-19 3:36

Here we go angry mobbing again...
Since you've been more active here I always have my torch and pitchfork close Big Grin | :-D

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Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 4:49

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 4:49

If I target SQL I deserve it.

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

Nathan Minier2-Aug-19 4:29

Nathan Minier

2-Aug-19 4:29

The fix for this (for the moment) is to code against .NET Standard. That will cover both core and framework use cases.

It's not ideal, but it works.

"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 4:29

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 4:29

.NET Standard 2.0 doesn't support console apps AFAIK

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

Forogar 2-Aug-19 4:36

Forogar

2-Aug-19 4:36

No, code against .Net Framework - I'm sure the other versions will just fade away if we all ignore them long enough.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

honey the codewitch2-Aug-19 4:50

honey the codewitch

2-Aug-19 4:50

heh.

I've got two executables with the same codebase. They're just compiled with different settings - one is Core and the other is DNF

When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

Re: I can't wait for .NET 5

Forogar 2-Aug-19 7:36

Forogar

2-Aug-19 7:36

You are just not ignoring .Core hard enough! Poke tongue | ;-P

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

Null Pointer Exception

dan!sh 2-Aug-19 1:27

dan!sh

2-Aug-19 1:27

When you remember you had an idea but don't remember the idea itself.

"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

Re: Null Pointer Exception

User 110609792-Aug-19 1:31

User 11060979

2-Aug-19 1:31

Is this not named garbage collection? Big Grin | :-D

It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.

Re: Null Pointer Exception

Maximilien2-Aug-19 2:43

Maximilien

2-Aug-19 2:43

garbage recollection.

I'd rather be phishing!

Re: Null Pointer Exception

RickZeeland2-Aug-19 2:09

RickZeeland

2-Aug-19 2:09

Don't get any ideas !
Poke tongue | ;-P

Re: Null Pointer Exception

CodeWraith2-Aug-19 2:15

CodeWraith

2-Aug-19 2:15

That's called Alzheimer. Smile | :)

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His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

Re: Null Pointer Exception

Sander Rossel2-Aug-19 3:55

Sander Rossel

2-Aug-19 3:55

InsufficientMemoryException Big Grin | :-D

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Sander

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Re: Null Pointer Exception

rnbergren2-Aug-19 4:31

rnbergren

2-Aug-19 4:31

Standard Operating Procedure for my brain.

To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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glennPattonWork31-Aug-19 23:06

glennPattonWork3

1-Aug-19 23:06

Hi All,
The 'cost saving' action of getting rid of the IT dept has crippled the Kaspersy updates coming over the network. Yes someone took their eye off the ball and didn't update the licence, they now have but can't push it from the server. Before we upgraded to proper IT support we never had this. (Three guys in a HOT room full of PC's and it rarely went wrong, and install codes and manuals could be found in minutes) Roll eyes | :rolleyes: