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Slow Eddie wrote: I have experience with MS windows Web Forms. I have always worked in VB6, VB.Net and C#. Ditto.
Slow Eddie wrote: I'd like to know your opinion on what is the "best" language to learn to do this There's two languages there; one for the server, one for the client. Server side may be familiar.
Server side, I'd recommend Apache with Mono.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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If you're used to WinForms maybe try Blazor
I've never used it before, but in theory it gives you access to stateful applications and .NET goodness on the client side.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Separation of front-end GUI and backend is a standard architecture for a website, so I would go for ASPnet Core Web Api ( Tutorial: Create a web API with ASP.NET Core | Microsoft Docs ) connecting to SQL backend, and some version of the front-end using the Api, starting with something simpler like html5 + css + javascript/typescript as proof-of-concept, and later maybe Blazor as already suggested by HTCW. Asp.net core 5 is interesting as it offers hosting models, so that IIS is not really needed, as I would prefer to host the modules in windows service(s). It needs to be done in stages/modules I think ... BR
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Open API standard Web API with EF Core.
Front end ==> Blazor (Microsoft newest)
UI ==> MudBlazor
Net 6 is out tomorrow, VS2022 today in X64
Lots of buzz, lots of tutorial, lots of people working on this.
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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I'm not a web developer and I think the whole web is an outrageous hack. As an individual it's pretty hard to keep pace with all the crazy changes needed to make things barely work. You can tell this is true by how terrible most websites have become. But I do appreciate how important this work is, and more power to you for wanting to dive in.
I can't really recommend anything you should use, other than to suggest you don't get stuck on any one framework or toolset at this point and try different ones to broaden your experience. Let that process take years, so be patient.
That said, I once wrote a blog using C#, then started filling it with content. It was great for a couple of years, and then without warning Microsoft pulled the rug out from under me by changing some of the functions I was using. It was basic stuff like string handling, which they were claiming required more security, but they left the burden on me to replace them. I would have had to refactor the whole thing. I eventually moved the whole site to a Linux box and left the blog behind. Do you really want to wake up one morning to discover your website needs to be rewritten because of an overnight update you didn't ask for?!
I vowed never to use Microsoft .Net for anything ever again. In general I now shy away from anything that isn't highly portable. The more you build, the more you must maintain. Eventually you'll reach your limit and either start discarding your hard work or never produce anything new. Maybe both.
I lived through the tyranny of significant whitespace with Fortran in the 90s, and as long as Python remains religious about its indentation scheme, I'll never use Python either. It's not worth the aggravation I guarantee you'll experience if your application reaches any appreciable size.
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Happened to me several times with Microsoft tech, to name a few: early Sharepoint, Small Business Server, WebMatrix.
Web development tech and capabilities change rapidly, any tech regardless if it comes from Msft, ages quickly.
Something that is 3 years old is showing its age, something that is 6 years is too limited, and something that is 9 years old is in a museum.
Rather than look at why not, look at the reasons why. Right now Msft tech (Blazor / Maui / Azure) is hot.
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Owen Lawrence wrote: I'm not a web developer and I think the whole web is an outrageous hack.
Sounds like you are a web developer
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I agree, you put that very well. There is no 'good' web development tech in my opinion - it's all a bit of a hack. None of the development tools really focus on what web pages are for - displaying information. The way MS keep changing C# and the ballooning complexity of their tools (such as ASP.NET) is why I dropped C# and .Net, though I can see that they would be useful for large-scale and very complex enterprise apps.
I agree that Python has a few hideous oddities in its syntax (its use of whitespace is irritating and the propaganda that it is an object-orientated language is blasphemous). However, I am currently learning Python just so I can see what the fuss is all about, but I can't see myself using it for much except perhaps for online AI apps (though I am looking into JS as an alternative here).
I quite like JS with html 5, as these are of course easily portable, and although I don't like PHP I use it for server-side tasks along with MySQL. I guess it depends on how complex a web site needs to be, but then again I think people trying to do too much with web apps may be part of the problem - I think its better to keep web apps simple and functional where possible.
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What about C# in Blazor? Looks like a perfect fit with that background.
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Save business cards of people you don't like then if you accidentally hit a parked car just write sorry on the back of the card and leave it on the windshield.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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You are a true Evil Genius.
ed
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Being evil is of no consequence. But being a genius: Now that is important!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Need to bear in mind that someone may have your business card too.
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Still got a nice stack of those, from different companies. Why do we get business cards again?
Wasting trees.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Decades ago I worked for a company that insisted everybody have cards, including us devs who never interacted with anyone outside the company. Or at least not in a capacity in which we'd be representing the company.
Out of the box of 500 I got, I think I still have 498 of them.
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Someone at my last job was the other side of that farce.
We hired him when he left the Navy at some lowly technicians job title because he was enlisted and only had an associates degree (working on a BS but not done yet); despite the fact that as an SME he was doing technical work well above that level. But he was one of our two on-base personnel for the project and as such was present at industry days and other events where he was meeting with lots of potential customers/suppliers so he was also doing mid-level engineer/entry level management work in that case as well; which meant that he really did need to have business cards of his own. However someone senior in HR was being stubbornly inflexible about people at that junior level never being supposed to have business cards.
His line manager/our program manager went through 3 or 4 cycles of filling out the justification outside of normal process paperwork only to have a warm body at the next level send it back with an automatic denial being reported at the weekly team meetings. The final round of the farce had him saying he was going to be meeting with the head of HR to ask if she would accept that a policy override was needed and approve the business card request, or if he needed to ram an out of cycle promotion through the system instead wasting a ton more of everyone's time and costing far more than the few boxes of cards/year would run. We never heard anything more of it, so I assume the head was either capable of seeing reason or lazy enough to not want to deal with the other half of his threat.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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It's not that I don't like them, it's just that they parked their car in the spot where I had my accident.
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Accidentally
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I had a friend who used to chat up girls in clubs and give them one of 'those' business cards as his own.
This was especially important if he got lucky.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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Can I buy one with Calamari Flan?
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