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My current side-project is made up entirely of rabbit holes! It's nice to know that I'm not alone.
Rob Philpott wrote: I'm struggling with one of my hobby projects at the moment - I keep going down rabbit holes. I'm not exactly sure what features I want in it yet, I first need to come up with a rough prototype, some sort of 'minimum viable product' and let it evolve from there. Suck it and see.
I feel like I'm going through a similar struggle as to what you're experiencing. It's been this way for a while, but I'm starting to get a grasp on how to deal with it. I find that when I plan ahead, I'm assigning myself work to be done. Since my project is just for fun, tasking things out ahead of time turns it into a job. That stifles my progress. I've found that the best way to go about working on my project is to experiment. If I play around, that's when I make tremendous progress. See what happens when you view working on your project as a perpetual game. If you can foster your curiosity, then it will drive you to experiment more, and plan less. You'll discover that when you push your limits in this way, you will achieve things you never thought were possible. That's what keeps me going. I've been working on the same project that I started over 8 years ago. I'm still going. 
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Please tell me that it's not more than four, and that Dij's new nest discovery is now empty? 'Cause them were BIG chicks and he's bringing me the corpses in pairs ... 
There are times when it's really good to have a cat around, and then there are other times.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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My four chickens used to lay one egg a day like clockwork.
Then it was 3 some days. One or more of them was slacking.
Now we're lucky to get an egg at all. The chooks are getting old.
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modified yesterday.
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honey the codewitch wrote: They chooks are getting old.
Time for chicken soup? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Depending upon what birds they are, can even be 6 or more.
Sorry
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Bugger.
These chicks had no feathers and they were all around 12cm long (ignoring the legs) so I'm guessing quite big birdies were involved. The only colour I could see was red and that came from the inside, so that doesn't count or aid identification ...
Dij isn't talking so I'm getting nothing there either.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Having seen the size of the eggs, I would hope for the bird's sake no more than one at a time! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Nature taking it's course I guess.
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Yes, I agree, I missed my cat when he died but I've never missed what he used to bring home. I'd never have another one.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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The neighbor's cat keeps me entertained.
Whenever he walks by the tree in my yard, the bluejays fly down from their nest to greet him with a few good solid pecks on the head. He wanders around for a while wondering how he became the prey instead of the hunter.
Some day he'll learn that even pretty birds can protect their young.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Depends on the bird, but a friend of mine had a pair of blue tits in his nesting box that had a clutch of 11 eggs, which all hatched and fledged.
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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Update: https://cse.usf.edu/~kchriste/tools/udpClientNonblock.c[^] Pretty much what I needed. Yay.
Update 2: Much ado about nothing. Easier than I thought. Docs are just terrible.
Anyone remember the sockets layer from C and C++?
Seriously, the fact that someone actually designed them the way that they did, and it made its way through a standards committee just floors me. The blocking stuff is fine, but the non blocking stuff is incomprehensible, at least last time I looked at it.
It's absolutely the worst asynchronous API I've ever encountered.
I'm about ready to use them in blocking mode on a spawned thread just to avoid it, but the MCU doesn't have a lot of resources and threads are relatively expensive. 
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
modified yesterday.
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I'd be curious to hear more specifically what is wrong about the asynchronous socket API. What is the incomprehensible part.
Communication is, in its very nature, asynchronous. So an asynchronous socket API should be the natural way to do it. Synchronous communication is a straitjacket; you can't work or think freely if you have to force yourself into a synchronous framework for communication.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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IBM Documentation[^]
It's anything but natural.
Adding, I took a liberty here. I'm using non-blocking and asynchronous interchangeably, but they may not always be in every context.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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And here I am, complaining about non-well-formed CSV files... 
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Those are the bane of every programmer.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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My simple rule: I only read CSVs I wrote.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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honey the codewitch wrote: use them in blocking mode on a spawned thread
Works for us. We use blocking sockets for both hardware and inter-process communication. It separates threading concerns from communication concerns.
Software Zen: delete this;
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