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Sander Rossel wrote: You make €100 an hour as an employee!?
I wish ! But no, I was talking about buying services from free-lancers or free-lancers companies (what you called middle-man), which I actually currently buy (as a project manager) between 80€/h and 120€/h, without taxes (about 20% more). I do not know how much is left to the free-lancer in the end... So to compare with it, I took what I am costing to the company, which must also be around 100€/h. The factor is 1.86 in my employer country, so this means ~55€/h and all taxed deduced (27% social and 35% income) around 25€/h net, which is what you estimated.
But the salaries are more than 5k in Germany, they are public and regulated by syndicates, here the grid:
file:///C:/Users/sdt2bue/AppData/Local/Temp/2018_02_06_MuE_TVe_Entgelte_u_AVo.pdf
SW Engineers are typically in the last five levels (so 13 to 17) on page 7 which you multiply by an experienced based factor between 1.1 and 1.3 determined by your employer, and you get this yearly between 13 and 14 times depending on local primes, so for a just graduated first job, this would be 4780€ x 1.1 x 13.5 = 5915€, so the company gives you 5915*73%=4318€/monthly, so about 33€/h or 22€/h after income taxes.
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Rage wrote: here the grid:
file:///C:/Users/sdt2bue/AppData/Local/Temp/2018_02_06_MuE_TVe_Entgelte_u_AVo.pdf I don't think I can access your C drive
Rage wrote: salaries are more than 5k in Germany With such salaries freelancers are probably only slightly more expensive than employees.
They still make more money than employees when all goes well, mostly because they have no social security (taxes) and they can deduct taxes.
Freelancers are a huge problem here in the Netherlands by the way.
Not all freelancers make a lot of money, but they also don't contribute to the social security taxes, so when they lose their job they have no financial buffer, but they also don't get social benefits.
It's a huge risk because ultimately those people have to fall back on the minimum social security payment, which is even below minimum wage.
Also, the social security benefits only work when everyone contributes, but with all those freelancers, less and less people are contributing.
One of the reasons we have so many freelancers is because our laws make it nearly impossible and very expensive to fire employees.
So, many employers just hire someone as a freelancer so they can let them go whenever they want.
Not in IT, because IT staff is hard to come by and generally more expensive as a freelancer (which is why many IT staff is going freelance, which only worsens the problem).
But postmen, for example, have all been laid off and hired back as low paid freelancer.
Same in security and health sector.
My cousin couldn't keep a job in security for more than three years (the maximum of temporary contracts an employer can give you before they have to hire you for an indefinite time).
All his employers were satisfied, but they didn't want to risk hiring him so they laid him off for six months and then called him back for another three years.
The problem with that is that it's almost impossible to get a mortgage if you don't have a contract for an indefinite time.
He earned way more than his girlfriend, but when it came to the mortgage his salary was worth loose change.
He switched to another sector altogether.
And then there's another problem... When you hire a freelancer and they work for you exclusively, you may find that this freelancer now has all the same rights as an employee, but with his freelancer salary.
That's why you don't hire freelancers directly, but always through some agency or only for a few months...
Yeah, the social security system tripped so hard employers are now looking for loopholes and the laws that were supposed to protect employees are now hurting them
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I can run multiple instances of Outlook ... usually by mistake. Would be surprised if they didn't sync.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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3 for me too:
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I think I know what your first guess was! Are you sending us a hidden message?
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Haha, that's my go-to starting word, served me well so far!
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One of those lucky days.
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My little outfit I'm a part of was trying to get a prototype fabbed so we could present something for our end client to bang on, but the company fabbing the board keeps pushing the deadline out and out. Chip shortages. It's now a month since we were supposed to receive the boards.
So now we've take to creating wire wrapped prototypes like this is the 1970s.
Why? So we can build the elephanting board with parts we can buy off of Amazon - somehow they never seem completely out of stock where WROVERs are concerned.
Not only that the delays mean less work, meaning less income for the past month, and just it's no fun all around.
If you asked me a few years ago if I ever thought a chip shortage would impact my work I'd have laughed.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Couple of decades ago, we were using a combined battery backed RAM and clock module, all in a single chip - worked for years, and years.
Then TI bought the manufacturer as it was quicker and cheaper than building a new fab and axed the whole product line. Overnight the chips became unobtainium, and we bought as many as we could find (my boss was on holiday so I just spent £70,000 of his money and told him when he got back) then had to redesign the hardware to make a plug in module to replace it out of discrete components. Which meant doing our first SMT design to fit in the physical space, which lead to a complete switch to SMT in just over a year.
PITA, but the alternative was no product to ship ... and that would have been serious.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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ouch!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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My first thought was Vinegar with Sea Salt chips -- then I thought - oh, she means hardware.
(What happens when I'm dieting, I guess.)
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Not a joke here in Canada. There is a disagreement between Frito-Lay and our biggest grocery chain, so no chips.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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On Digikey I'm waiting for a part that's arriving December 26. I bet it's in Santa's sled
Mircea
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Digikey is our supplier too. Can't get a WROVER to save my life.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Sometimes I've been lucky going between Mouser and Digikey.
Mircea
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Yeah I don't necessarily have the option. The guy running things is stuck on digikey, and we need a supplier that can (at least typically) reliably source good components at wholesale quantity for when we go live. It's a lot easier to do that if you prototype with the same supplier you end up producing the end product with, or at least that's what I'm learning.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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