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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Which is basic nonsense. If you understand SQL, then the difference between TSQL and PL/SQL is neglectable for normal tasks. I know that and you know that ... but the average hiring manager obviously did not.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: You might as well learn COBOL. Funny you say that, as there's a market for COBOL due to the sheer mass of legacy systems. When sheer record processing power is required, COBOL gets the job done. Banks and state governments have many millions of records and have a lot of COBOL in production to handle the flow. Systems written originally in the 60's are still in production.
[Nope, I'm not a COBOL programmer.]
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BryanFazekas wrote: Funny you say that It was intentional; a dead language that you should not learn, and has more job-opportunities than Python.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Python would be a good choice, in my opinion. You would have at least some fun learning it.
You may also find it useful for prototyping.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Thanks. do you know anybody who is looking for a Python programmer?
ed
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My boss wants me to learn it, but I ain't gonna.
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Python?
For what ffs?
You're dangerous enough already.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I know, right?
Though now he also says he'd rather I were an analyst than a developer. I need to find a new project.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Though now he also says he'd rather I were an analyst than a developer Sure, can he point out the difference then?
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I need to find a new project. A new employer. Someone that knows what they actually require.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Yes.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Are Python jobs usually the sole/primary language for a position or is it something used occasionally? I've never tried it. I have been using PowerBuilder since 1994 but also use C++ in simple non visual apps.
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In job offers (at least the ones I know), usually it is NOT the primary programming language.
As matter of fact, companies are using it more and more.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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CPallini wrote: As matter of fact, companies are using it more and more. I'd like to see a source for that claim; I'm not even ridiculing it because that is redundant.
"More and more", did it climb from 0.21% usage to 0.22%?
What comes preinstalled and works with Office, Exchange, SQL Server? Yes, your first idea must be Python!
Even Java is more requested. Not just locally btw. Python isn't even on the bloody list
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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'Preinstalled'?
'Windows'?
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
modified 25-Aug-22 1:02am.
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The runtime for .NET is.
vbrun300.dll, innit?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Learn to sell yourself; not some language.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Don't select a language based on how difficult it is to learn.
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Or you just will get down to Q and will get stuck there forever
Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. T.Jefferson
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If you optimize your skills for "most job openings", you'll just be yet another fungible unit of human resource.
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English is probably the leading language!
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中文 it is.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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You could learn Python; or you could learn a programming language.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
To err is human, to arr is pirate.
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Having done a few things with Python as a hobby my biggest concern with using it professionally would be with the quality of code I would encounter.
Python seems to be very much a language picked up by people who have not necessarily got the understanding and discipline of software development. It doesn't seem to generally be a language that software developers chose but more one that scientists choose and for that reason I would tend to avoid working with it - hopefully someone can prove me wrong here.
Maybe that makes me a software development snob...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: a software development snob
I represent that.
There are languages, going back to BASIC, intended to be easy to learn and do a few simple things. Python is one of the latest of them.
My father was an electronics engineer, but he was able to use BASIC to make some tables of figures he needed. That's about all he needed a programming language to do.
I have seen newer versions of BASIC (VAX BASIC and Visual Basic) used for largish applications, but they weren't very good. The designers and developers didn't seem to have the proper mindset.
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I liked what I found in Python, however I think that it's a really poor language for learning software development as it is not strongly typed among other weaknesses.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Essentially a scripting language, often used as glue. Definitely not a general-purpose programming language.
I disagree about it not being good as a first language. It definitely should not be a final language.
I think it has just enough to separate the wheat from the chaff -- anyone who wants to continue learning to program should quickly advance to a better language.
And if it gets beginners in the habit of consistent indenting, so much the better.
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