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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 16:07

You did watch Poke tongue | ;-P

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walterhevedeich23-Sep-13 17:11

walterhevedeich

23-Sep-13 17:11

Grasshopper.iics wrote:
So I offer myself

That sounds rather creepy. Hmmm | :|

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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Grasshopper.iics23-Sep-13 17:26

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 17:26

User 5924123-Sep-13 17:29

User 59241

23-Sep-13 17:29

It was generated by a perceptual bot. Still a work in progress.

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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Grasshopper.iics23-Sep-13 18:05

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 18:05

Sorry! You got it wrong here. Laugh | :laugh:

I am the zombie of 106 and not the Perceptual Bot of #1.

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 20:35

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 20:35

What I see is a lot of people reinventing the wheel on how to wave your arms in the air like a loony to have not enough effect on what happens on the screen, and with little genuine consideration for the user.

It would actually be a lot easier to set up something that reads and interprets gestures and movements of the user's hand on a desk, but it's plain that the designers all want to make stuff that you have to stand up and dance around the room to use -- which is great for Iron Man movies, but not how 99.9999999% of people will want to use their home and work computers/devices 99.9999999% of the time.

Try instead projecting a keyboard and a dot/movable symbol/touchpad on the desk, and letting the user use them (along with a few "sweep bars") to control the computer. That'd be met with immense enthusiasm, and would make you stinking rich.

What I do like is that your posting contains 106 items of prior art, which will prevent patent trolls coming up with bogus lawsuits over bullsh1t "control a computer without touching it" patents.

Incidentally, this posting can also be considered as prior art for the projected keyboard/mouse/sweep bar idea, which is the kind of thing that I would never even consider patenting, because it's so bleeding obvious, and would join in with kicking the arse of anyone who tried.

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_Maxxx_23-Sep-13 20:43

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23-Sep-13 20:43

Mark_Wallace wrote:
prevent patent trolls coming up with bogus lawsuits over bullsh1t "control a computer without touching it" patents.

unless, of course, they already have patented it - in which case it gives them 106 more "customers"

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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 21:04

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 21:04

In which case, I'd state a preference for the JSOP solution.

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Grasshopper.iics23-Sep-13 21:35

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 21:35

Mark, technology is not created by developers. It is created by industry leaders like MS, Apple, Google, Intel. Developers try to be part of the technology. At the early stages you would never know the use cases and that is why they organize contests which gives them proof of concepts. Don't get me wrong here, but you still haven't got the complete idea. Just because you had couple of applications controlling windows never means that technology is for that.

Please take some time to watch the works of Puppetry, Virtual drum, Shadow Art and so on. You will find them something that current technology can not provide.

Voice Recognition has been in existence since 2003 or even before that. How many applications have you seen using it? That is because state of technology does not permit them to do so. Please be unbiased and give #106 a look from 30th minute.

And you know, I received 5 cameras and I put one in local Honda Car showroom. The showroom has deployed the camera with a 30" display. Customers are actually loving waving the hands and viewing the images of different angles or cars and accessories and comparison.

I must say I did the demo for free as they are our long standing client. The sales has reported a boost of 18% since a month back when this demo was deployed. The Executive looks so professional.

And I have worked a bit in it. So I can tell you I will never use my hands in wave. But If can a build a system where I just ask the system to read out my mails and it does, I would prefer that any day over my outlook.

Also, few may feel it useless. But my 30 months old kid actually learnt to hold and move my shadow character with his tiny closed fist even before he has learnt talking properly.

Criticism is fine but presumption of mind is not correct.

You can not declare something with no meaning just because currently it gives no sense. Let the technology goes to screen less 3D display and you will also wake up in the morning and move your hand in air to check the mail. Please bookmark my post and come bash me in this post after 5 years.

You are all senior and reputed programmers. We look at you with respect to learn to get motivated, when you bash small programmers like me who participate in a contest for fun, for some money and for learning, you do not do justice.

Please send a letter to Intel Corporation asking them to shut the technology. Please tell leap motion to stop. Whether you like it or not Leap motion has sold more devices then initial mouse taker. My leap motion apps are downloaded over 2800 and people have mailed me personally to let me know that they like it.

So I know at least 2800 people who don't agree to your views.

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 21:49

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 21:49

Grasshopper.iics wrote:
you still haven't got the complete idea

This is where I stopped reading. You obviously need to learn how to address more than just user needs.

This "research" isn't blue-sky research, it's just a bunch of guys playing with new technology (invented by someone else), and all doing pretty much the same thing.

If that's your hobby, fine, carry on having fun with it, but don't try to blow its usefulness, either now or in the future, out of proportion.

And that usefulness is pretty damned limited, for pretty obvious reasons.

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Smith#23-Sep-13 22:25

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 22:25

Close your eyes,
Shut down your thoughts,
Now listen at the spot between your eyebrows and turn the memory coil on.
Watch yourself going back deep into your previous birth memory records.
YOU ARE THE COMMAND LINE GUY THAT RESISTED MOUSE!. Poke tongue | ;-P

Now watch this.[^]

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 22:58

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 22:58

Smith# wrote:
YOU ARE THE COMMAND LINE GUY THAT RESISTED MOUSE!

heh.

Bollocks.

I'd love to "escape" from keyboard and mouse usage, but having to use a vast amount of energy to dance around in front of a sensor, whilst not being able to scratch my ear or pick my nose, is not an improvement -- and God forbid that anyone should walk close by or hand you a piece of paper while you're doing your dervish dance to type the word "banana".

The idea of having three-dimensional virtual interface may be very cool, but who would use it? It'd be too hard to use, and too easy to screw up what you're doing -- and the Iron Man thing will exist in the movies and only in the movies (spend a little time thinking of the problems you'd run into -- go test-driven).

Create a 2D interface on a (read "any") flat surface, with maybe a couple of 3D elements that start from the flat surface and work out/up, and the world will beat a path to your door, but waving your arms in the air will never be of any use.

All the dancing/waving thing will do is cause more fights, when little sister walks through the wrong part of the room, and triggers something that gets big brother killed by a stinky monster.

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Smith#24-Sep-13 0:56

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

24-Sep-13 0:56

Yup that's true. When the mouse came into use, some usability enthusiasts tried scribbling "A" "B" "C" with their mouse when then could easily type it with the keyboard.
The same thing happened with the stylus , my ex-boss tried so hard to show off with a stylus over his pocket PC. The hand recognition system never believed it's a human writing over the screen there. After years of pointless effort, he restored back to keypad.
I saw some dumb usage of Intel perc as well. But I just masked my giggle inside just to stay away from discouraging them, except @ a guy that shouted "AWESOME" in the kitchen. D'Oh! | :doh:

Mark_Wallace24-Sep-13 1:13

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

24-Sep-13 1:13

I had one of these[^], many moons ago.

It ended up not being used, because it was too much trouble (not to mention heavy). I have no idea where it ended up.

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Smith#24-Sep-13 1:22

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

24-Sep-13 1:22

Oh the cave man's ipad. Big Grin | :-D

These looked very "electronic". I loved the one I had for few months.

Storm-blade23-Sep-13 22:44

Storm-blade

23-Sep-13 22:44

keyboard projector[^]

(Although I admit the mouse idea is a good one)

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Mark_Wallace23-Sep-13 23:03

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 23:03

Now That is cool!

And it allows people to stand/move/breathe within five yards of you, while you're using it.

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Rage23-Sep-13 21:21

Rage

23-Sep-13 21:21

Am I really supposed to copy and paste all the what-should-have-been-links ?

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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Smith#23-Sep-13 22:25

Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

23-Sep-13 22:25

You did speak up. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

GenJerDan24-Sep-13 3:40

GenJerDan

24-Sep-13 3:40

Video Entries or not, shouldn't things from the IPCC be in the Soapbox?

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Re: Intel Perceptual Computing Challenge Video Entries

Grasshopper.iics24-Sep-13 3:42