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Dalek Dave wrote: did you know you cannot construct a square with the same area as a circle. Hwuh?
That flew past me on the first read.
For any value of r, you can construct a square that is pi.r on a side, giving it precisely the same area as a circle with radius r.
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Good luck with that.
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???
I'm a mathematician, not an accountant.
My numbers don't lie.
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So you reckon you can make a square that is PRECISELY Pi.r along each side do you?
First, please give me the PRECISE value for pi.
(I am a physicist not a mathematician, the accounts came later as I realised that as a physicist, I would starve to death).
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[My God, he hasn't even noticed]
The same value of pi is used for both calculations, ipso facto, I rest my case...
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OK then, now go and construct it.
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Okidoki. Just send me the value of r and your construction of the circle I have to match it to.
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Sorry, that wasn't what was asked.
I merely stated you could not construct a square with the same are as a circle.
I had to google[^] but found this
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What is obvious, but that you are ridiculously missing, is that every square you construct has the same area as a circle.
How many circles are there?
Um, that would be an infinite number.
Don't worry; it's one of those obvious points that everyone misses*, so you're not alone.
* That's not entirely true; I spotted it right away.
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Perhaps the actual disagreement is because it is being discussed by an engineer (practical) and a mathematician (theoretical.)
In the first case the definition of "construct" means building a box in the real world.
In the second it is a point of proving that for a theoretical box and theoretical circle exists (provably.)
In terms of the engineer one might note that since the box cannot be built using 'precise' measurements then one cannot hold the same requirement for the circle. Further of course measuring the area of either is not 'precise' either for a real world example using actual measured values and not calculated.
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Err Dave - it's a wind up. π(r<super>2)
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SHH!
Spoilsport!
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The whole world knows that the PRECISE value of pi is 3.14
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As any fule no π = 4
See Here[^]
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Well thanks never knew you could do that, learnt something new today
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Hold on!
It's one thing leading DD up the garden path, but the equation is actually pi(r2) -- the bollocks I said earlier doesn't work; it was a heffalump trap.
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I never actually googled what you put.
But "construct a square from pi.r" lead me to a few good examples and broke the pi(r2) down even further with some good explainations
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Seems this one might be too subtle for a lot of people.
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A little humour is a dangerous thing, apparently.
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Dalek Dave wrote: 11630 isn't very interesting.
12407 isn't very interesting. ... Until someone finally twigs that they're the key to Fermat's Theorem, or some-such.
Now you apologise to 11630 and 12407, Davey, and play nicely.
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[voted up for the switch, which almost no-one will have noticed]
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really did not. Still clue-less
Thanks,
Milind
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Well, 11630 is the lowest uninteresting number, which in itself is interesting, therefore it's not an uninteresting number, so 12407 must be the lowest uninteresting number, which in itself is interesting, therefore...
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<-insert_symobol_for_lightbulb_here->
to Dalek and You...
Did not realize it at all. And wouldn't have for ages, hadn't you clarify.
Thanks,
Milind
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I really don't want to sing 10,130,865 members were sitting on the wall.
If the zeros were leading zeros and I'de had a few, then I would sing it.
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