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Amarnath S wrote: not a native English speaker
But you still (probably speak*) and write it better than many who are. Having worked for a few weeks in India I know from experience how well many of you speak English.
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As non-native English speakers, we have an advantage: We don't know 'The Right Way' of speaking English. We do not frown at neither Indian English, Australian, US or Oxford English. When I speak with Indians (there were 3-4 of them in my last job), it took me a week after a vacation to get back into their special pronunciation and wordings. Going to the US of A, it may take me a day or two to get into Americanisms. Years ago, I had a Scottish coworker who sometimes was away for a few months. When he returned, I really had to concentrate to understand his speaking for the first two days - but he insisted that he didn't speak English, but Scottish  .
Certainly, most Americans are quite tolerant about variants of English (you have to be ) - but certainly not everyone. Maybe the percentage of intolerant British really is higher, but on the other hand, out of politeness they don't say anything; they just signal their dismay through body language.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Speaking of Australian English experiences, there's a humorous incident commonly quoted here. (Not to offend anyone)
An Indian cricketer landed in Sydney and went to the hotel receptionist to check in. Here's the conversation:
Receptionist: Did you come here to die?
Indian cricketer: Er... Well... I came here to live, and to play.
Only later did the Indian cricketer realize that 'today' was pronounced as 'to die'.
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In India itself, there are several variants of English.
I speak Kinglish (Kannada + English). Then there is Hinglish (Hindi + English). There are also Tamil + English, Malayalam + English, and many others.
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I guess it was Kinglish that I was exposed to in Bangalore. As a very small child, born in Mussoorie, I spoke a mixture of Urdu and English. But I soon lost that when we left and came to England.
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The most commonly spoken language in the world is broken English.
Bond
Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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I have lived in Bangalore, now called Bengaluru, since 1966, my year of birth. When I learnt Partial Differential Equations, used to say that Bangalore is my 'Dirichlet boundary condition'.
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Or else, it must commit the sender, no less than a human-sent message
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As some probably noticed , I am non English speaking person.
When I was gainfully employed , I worked all over US and NEVER had an issue communicating,
in personal matters or technically, until "Al Gore invented internet".
Nowadays most of my posts are judged for format and not for contents. Seldom I get comments
about my missuses of " Queens English".
Al Gore turned society communicating skills from a subject oriented to opinions oriented.
With that said - if my communicating skils where then opinions based /originated I would have been collecting unemployment instead of working.
I am also known not to blindly follow stupid rules , ( my favorite - format your code - or else I won;t help you ) , but when people lack basic skills or desire
to actually read the rules , and follow them - then AI will eventually take over...
PS
You can, at least partially, "blame it" on my favorite fellow countryman author for inventing word "robot".
I am not sure if I should be fond or shame of it.
Cheers
PS
Sorry for the long rambling, but we lost power - again - and being in dark sprouts (crazy) ideas...
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... well that's the "plan". I'm technically, between contracts - but, more realistically, probably at the end of the road of a forty year career in software development. So of course, I thought... I'll write a novel - a fiction novel, in fact. Doesn't everyone?
Well it's not all fun and games trying to be an author. I started on a new chapter... five lines in and I'm thinking:
1. Does that look right?
2. Is this how it should start?
3. What happens next.
4. Is this really a chapter?
Just like programming, I guess!
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Are you a plotter or a planner?
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I'm a plotter/planner - not a 'pantser'. Although that's not going exactly as I expected either. I had it all mapped out - down to the chapter level. And actually wrote the final chapter - so knew exactly where I was headed. And then...
A few weeks back, someone asked: "How's the book going?" I replied: "Two more chapters to go." Since then, I've written four more chapters, (and revised some of the earlier ones), and I still have two more chapters to go! 
Again, very much like software development.
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As you know, we in software development call that refactoring.
I think most successful authors would tell you need to write, then re-write over and over again. It doesn't matter how detailed you plan is even before you start writing a single line.
So, just like software development.
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dandy72 wrote: As you know, we in software development call that refactoring Scope Creep
FTFY
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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Mike Hankey wrote: dandy72 wrote: As you know, we in software development call that refactoring Scope Creep
FTFY
When I write "novels", scope creep it the very purpose of it.
I don't write for anyone but myself; I will never try to have my texts published (or even show them to others). I started out writing about 25+ years ago, in frustration over my inability to fix my own car; I am completely dependent on car mechanics for everything; I know nothing about cars. My brain started churning on this: I know nothing about how soap is made. How to smoke meat and fish. How to use a chainsaw. ...
So in my mind I created a scenario with noone around to help me (almost). A post-apocalyptic world where I would have to solve all problems on my own. I attacked one are at a time - and also asking myself: Do I really need to solve this problem - is is an essential one?
To begin with, the specific problems and solutions were in focus. Then came the scope creep: With limited resources, what do I really want to give priority? What it truly valuable to me? In my imaginary post-apocalyptic world, I wasn't all alone: A group of kids had survived as well. So I had to justify my choices to them, and we had to organize a new society. How would I build and organize a society from a tabula rasa, when noone else restricts my choices? (The reason why I let a group of kids survive was to give myself more freedom: They would have few very firm ideas about what a society should be, but they would all the time be questioning my, and gradually their own, choices.)
So the scope crept outward, to thoughts about society in general, how to relate to life and death, which morals can be justified for yourself and which can you impose on others, and so on.
As the work progressed, I was surprised to learn how may questions I had never before given a single thought. Also, thinking them thoroughly over made me, in several areas, change my deepest convictions. It changed me as a human.
Later, I have written a number of texts, as novels or (long) short stories, essentially by creating a scenario that I do not know how to handle. In order to make a trustworthy story, with people behaving and arguing in a way that makes sense, I have to do a lot of background studies. Almost always, it starts out with some very practical problem, like this group that gets involved in a new mining project: How do you get minerals out of the stone? I didn't have a clue. Now I have at least slight clue, especially about the variation in techniques both for finding the minerals and extracting them. But it also brings me into how multinational (and for that sake, national) mining companies behave: How mine workers are treated, how the pollution they generate is treated, how much respect they have for wildlife and nature, and so on.
And how do mining companies differ from other huge corporations? Can we at all imagine a society with both mining and other large-scale activities that does not have the same negative effects on everything around them? Could we have a society that allows the activity without giving the leaders the power tools to destroy everything else in their hunt for profit?
Often, issues like these makes me end up in a very non-PC corner. That is the main reason why I don't show my texts to others. I did show the first novel to a few, and that had some very negative consequences for me personally. If I have to adjust my thoughts to what is acceptable to people around me, then I don't have the freedom to decide for myself what I think would be the right answer.
To give an example: I honestly think that internet protocols is a can of worms. Or rather: A pail of garbage. So I create a scenario where the entire network (well, limited to the USA and their international connections) is completely destroyed and must be rebuilt from the ground up. You have the freedom to build a completely new network from scratch, unhampered by any old solutions - but you have the knowledge of all alternative technologies that had to yield to IP.
I don't care much for shouting matches with TCP/IP affectionadas, nor for (even polite) discussions about how internet could possibly be developed in the direction I suggest. I do not care to reshape a garbage can! I want to analyze how a completely different network could be designed, see if it could be made workable at all. (And yes, it could!) But I can hardly mention such thoughts of something to replace IP, throw IP on the garbage heap where it belongs, with anyone who knows the difference between TCP and IP. That is like pointing out to Christians that the two histories of the childhood of Jesus has practically no overlap, and must refer to two different boy children - they do not want to hear of it, and the run as fast as they can to fetch my coat.
To give a somewhat more specific advice to SteveH: Do not underestimate the importance of background research!
One thing my writing has made me realize in full: My competence, my knowledge is very limited. I can hardly write a novel based solely on what I've already got inside my head. The story always run into corners where an expert shakes his head: That author is writing about things he doesn't have a clue about. I know it from my own reading: Frequently, I see authors (even well known ones) giving descriptions and solutions that are far away from any reality, and it makes me p***ed. I stop trusting that author even in areas where I am not and expert. You don't have to become an expert in every area you refer to, but learn enough about it to make sure that you do not make any big blunders - in particular if your story in any way depends on the details you mention.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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The ideas and thoughts in your writings are yours, that's the whole point of writing and reading. I already know what I'm thinking (most of the time  ) so I want to read what others think and write. (I'm an avid reader (about 2 hours a day).
If I don't like or agree with what someone writes I simply don't read it. If you don't like something I say or write about, ignore it. It's a pretty simple philosophy.
As an aside, I have learned many professions over the years, mainly because I'm too poor to pay someone else to do it.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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Mike Hankey wrote: I already know what I'm thinking (most of the time )
Until you have had to (fiercely) defend your thoughts, you do not know for sure what you are thinking.
In my student days, we were a group of 8-10 students meeting every weekend for all sorts of discussions - almost as if the very purpose was to disagree. Whatever one of us suggested, it was met by some counter arguments. That was extremely stimulating, and made us dig really deep to see if we could truly defend our opinions. We were truly disagreeing: A newborn Christian, a jew, a couple traditional protestants, most were non-believers, but we could discuss religious questions through the night. One wore a Mao Tse Tung button on his jacket sleeve at all times, another one would definitely support an alternate president if he was in the US now, some were green, some wanted more or less a theocracy: The morals of the Christian churches should control all aspects of society; this of course led to fierce debates. Yet, we were all close friends when all arrived at my little apartment, and equally close friends when the left at night.
After we graduated, the group naturally dissolved. When I write, the main character(s) always have antagonist(s) opposing their ideas and thoughts. For me as an author, one of the most challenging tasks is to dig up all the counter arguments against the ideas held by the protagonists, which are 'obviously' the good, right ideas. No, that is not at all obvious. Then there would be no conflict around them. So I have to understand what makes the antagonists think the way they do. Therefore,
If I don't like or agree with what someone writes I simply don't read it. This is very much contrary to my line of thought. I must know the counter arguments, the arguments for a completely different taste or judgement. First, it can strengthen my ability to defend my own opinions. Second: What if they are right? What if I really should change my opinions? I am open to that alternative!
Finally: If you don't read what "someone" writes because you don't like it or disagree with it, how do you know that you don't like it or disagree with it? Is it due to a label that you or someone else has attached to the author, rather than the writings?
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I liked the News Feed novels (reporters during zombie apocalypse). The author had their text reviewed by experts in guns, biology, etc. to make sure all of it was at least plausible.
Bond
Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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In these AI days ...
One reason why James P. Hogan: The Two Faces of Tomorrow (1979) still holds up fairly well may be related to the Acknowledgement prefacing the novel, where he thanks the help and advice received from Prof. Marvin Minsky, Artificial Intelligence Unit, MIT. (If "Marvin Minsky" is unknown to you, look it up in Wikipedia!)
Having experts review your manuscript is absolutely essential, for verifying anything that is not your own field of expertise.
You might run into problems with an expert completely rejecting something you wrote, "It couldn't possibly have been like that, you have to completely rewrite that part of the story", the expert tearing down major part of your plot. I have read a few books like that. One author of 25 mystery novels, translated to 40 languages (according to Wikipedia) makes such grave mistakes, basing his plots on impossible assumptions, that I have come to reject his books completely. Fair enough: Some novels are declared to be counterfactual, but that is different from counterfactual physics and the workings of engineered mechanisms that in all ways are presented as factual.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue...
So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid.
Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied.
This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand).
I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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DerekT-P wrote: Well, I came here for a MS rant
No, this is "abuse". You want 12A[^], next door. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I have Win11 & Win10 machines and use them both for different things, I also use(d) Office XP (with an update to open docx & xlsx). I got into the habit of using them (also my Mum, not very technical!) could use it fine. One day Win11 updates and bang splat it stops working, it will open and you can view the document touch any key, click any mouse button and it closes. Why? So I have to conned into an Orfice365 subscription (I did try OpenOffice but had issues).
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At first I thought you were describing exactly the scenario my neighbor had come across, but not quite it.
In his case, one morning, his Windows 10 lock screen randomly decided he needed to swipe from bottom to top before the login textbox would show up, which is a thing MS introduced, I believe, starting with Windows 8.
Worse, his laptop didn't have a touch screen, so I had to teach him how to do the swipe motion by dragging the mouse, with the left button depressed, from the bottom up.
He had never seen this before, nor has he ever since.
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